HarryVegas
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If there was a known terrorist, born and raised in France, who came here and they were refusing to have him back for trial, insisting he stay here and we pay for his upkeep, I assume you'd disagree with that too?
This. It's maybe not a valid legal argument but isn't the moral imperative here to "do as you would be done by"?Imagine the uproar if whenever foreigners committed crimes in the UK their home countries rescinded their citizenship and we were left to deal with them for the rest of their days.
Oh let me be crystal clear, and I can only speak for myself. I don't want her back in the country. I think legally and morally we have no choice. Wanting something doesn't make it right either legally or morally.That's not my argument. Lots of people are intent on a known terrorist sympathiser been brought back to this country. That's ultimately what I disagree with.
I do not trust the justice system of this country to come to the right conclusion should it be ultimately proven she is a wrong un'. The courts have previous....
Unlikely as age is the key issue HMG say she had dual citizenship. Also, from a practical point of view, she will not be in a position to get the necessary legal support to mount an appeal.So 3 British-Bangladeshis win appeal against removal of UK citizenship
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-win-appeal-against-removal-of-uk-citizenship
Could the Begum decision be reversed?
Although it does say in the article that there are differences between the cases due to age
Exactly.Sorry, the very fact she’s made a documentary while not being able to access lawyers shows manipulation imo. I’m a pretty forgiving bloke but I don’t believe her at all, she’s made her bed.
The question I ask myself is did she show any remorse whatsoever in her interviews - No. the second question is has she manipulated her media coverage within her camp while claiming inability to get legal help in her camp at the same time thus showing a duplicitous side - yes. My conclusion: she hasn’t changed one jot from her non repentant interviews given initially and I wouldn’t trust her to lie straight in bed. Sorry, in this case I have little sympathy.A question I ask myself....... if it was my Daughter who had been brainwashed as an immature teenager how would I feel about her getting back to the UK?
Perhaps one of two others should ask themselves the same question.
Ask her dad how he feels. It's out there.A question I ask myself....... if it was my Daughter who had been brainwashed as an immature teenager how would I feel about her getting back to the UK?
Perhaps one of two others should ask themselves the same question.
I'm not going to argue with any of that. The simple matter is that she is a British Citizen and she should face British justice for what she has done.The question I ask myself is did she show any remorse whatsoever in her interviews - No. the second question is has she manipulated her media coverage within her camp while claiming inability to get legal help in her camp at the same time thus showing a duplicitous side - yes. My conclusion: she hasn’t changed one jot from her non repentant interviews given initially and I wouldn’t trust her to lie straight in bed. Sorry, in this case I have little sympathy.
it she comes back I’d expect her to see out her days in prison, as I would my own child if they’d done what she’s done. I’d still love them but ultimately You make your choice and face the consequences.
She is no longer a British citizenI'm not going to argue with any of that. The simple matter is that she is a British Citizen and she should face British justice for what she has done.
Can you recommend a lawyer who will go to a refugee camp?Sorry, the very fact she’s made a documentary while not being able to access lawyers shows manipulation imo. I’m a pretty forgiving bloke but I don’t believe her at all, she’s made her bed.
Yes, she is.She is no longer a British citizen
The UK government could not legally deprive her of British citizenship if doing so would leave her stateless. However, the UK government contended that Begum was eligible for citizenship of Bangladesh and was not left stateless. The Government of Bangladesh, however, stated that Begum does not currently hold Bangladeshi citizenship and would not be allowed to enter the country
Any number of human rights lawyers I would thinkCan you recommend a lawyer who will go to a refugee camp?
And the fact she qualified for Bangladeshi citizenship at the time we removed her citizenship yet Bangladesh, a Muslim country, don’t want her either speaks volumes.Yes, she is.
Why would they not? Citizenship is a human rights issue no?I don't think they will qualify. So can you name one?
Because none of the lawyers who have attempted to get access to the Syrian refugee camp have been allowed in by the camp authorities. So can you name one that will be allowed in?Why would they not? Citizenship is a human rights issue no?