Billywoofslovechild
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EDF raised prices in UK by 54% compared to only 4% in France. So are we subsiding France????? The worst thing was privatizing the UK market.
nope, I'm probably one of the most energy savvy people on here & having spent years working in the industry I know exacftky what was and wasn't out there to be had.I was never on SVR. I'm not stupid. I put my details in and without fail there was never a cheaper deal than the one I was on at the time. You must have been on terrible deals in the first place.
We aren't subsidising France; we are paying the going rate. the French government is subsidising EDF in France and absorbing the losses. Currently predicted at £30billion in losses in France, and the Uk arm reported losses in feb.EDF raised prices in UK by 54% compared to only 4% in France. So are we subsiding France????? The worst thing was privatizing the UK market.
Got all mine back when last one went belly up late last year.You won't lose it if your provider goes bust, its protected.
Yeah it's protected. There are fringe cases where disputes occur but it's usually because people see a £ credit balance on a bill and presume it's like a bank account but usage is often billed in arrears so is deducted from the credit balance. Still, good practice to keep copies of things showing your balance if you're worried about your supplierGot all mine back when last one went belly up late last year.
Ah. Insider dealing.having spent years working in the industry I know exacftky what was and wasn't out there to be had.
takes about 5 minutes to log in, compare prices and click switch, after which everything is handled for you. They also email you whenever you can save a custom set amount so don't even have to check manually.Ah. Insider dealing.
Well at least I haven't spent half my life on pointless middleman energy trading scam sites which masquerade as 'choice' so I'll take that. When nationalised I never gave it a second thought and didn't have to.
Some of them are foreign, or are absolutely massive, which would be practically impossible to bust.There is a longer term possibility (which I'm not even suggesting is remotely likely) which is that by everyone not paying their energy bills then all of the suppliers go bust and the government are forced to nationalise and act as the supplier. We know the suppliers don't make huge profits but they do make profit and there is no need for them. They don't do anything, they are just middlemen, so if we can remove them from the system we are one step closer to the optimal way of running. Even to the point that having a single variable tariff that everyone pays instead of all of the messing about with different companies having different SVRs, fixed offers etc that we all have to sift through to get the best price.
The suppliers have no incentive to drive prices down because they just pass the cost on. The government in that position though doesn't have to pass the full cost on. They could choose not to. They could also change the way the producers pay tax, force them to sell closer to the cost what they produce in the UK instead of us paying wholesale price for the energy/fuel we produce in the UK etc. Much more radical but things that would never happen in the current system.
Have you got a link to this? I've seen Martin Lewis warning people against the don't pay but the ombudsman thing sounds very un Martin Lewis-likeThere’s an article going the rounds on SM where Martin Lewis has not advocated the ‘don’t pay’ method but instead, cancel DD and tell them you will pay for what you use, but raise a complaint… they’re offering slightly reduced tariffs but you refuse and it goes to an ombudsman.. they charge them £500 for every complaint…
But as has been said, they’ll get their money off us one way or another..
Just seen this has already been mentioned…
Exactly my point.EDF raised prices in UK by 54% compared to only 4% in France. So are we subsiding France????? The worst thing was privatizing the UK market.
Well they're ran as different companies for starters so it will push EDF Uk supply arm into a massive loss (seeing as they were already predicted for one), which they will just eat up and use it for tax writeoffs for the next few years on projects they're already doing in the Uk.Exactly my point.
So if Gladys’s from no 33 doesn’t payer her £500 bill what impact will it really have on on France state run energy co
I've just seen this post and they've just used his picture to get traction, definitely not a Martin Lewis message or good adviceThere’s an article going the rounds on SM where Martin Lewis has not advocated the ‘don’t pay’ method but instead, cancel DD and tell them you will pay for what you use, but raise a complaint… they’re offering slightly reduced tariffs but you refuse and it goes to an ombudsman.. they charge them £500 for every complaint…
But as has been said, they’ll get their money off us one way or another..
Just seen this has already been mentioned…
Not really this is a bit of a myth as thatcher was by then growing unpopular in the Tory ranks ( look at heseltyne and the Westland affair) so the poll tax was largely a smokescreen.Civil disobedience has put paid to problems in the past. Whilst this is not a direct government policy like poll tax was, it is fair to say that the government should sort it out. Their mismanagement has caused the problem.
Agree. Electricity supply is not and never was a 'market', completely ridiculous concept. My understanding is that the wholesale cost of electricity into the 'market' is set at the level of the most expensive generator into the base grid load, currently gas fired power stations. If it was centrally run the price would be an average across all sources of generation, renewables, nuclear, etc., etc........EDF raised prices in UK by 54% compared to only 4% in France. So are we subsiding France????? The worst thing was privatizing the UK market.
It was on FB.. had quite a few shares now but I can’t link just now..Have you got a link to this? I've seen Martin Lewis warning people against the don't pay but the ombudsman thing sounds very un Martin Lewis-like
Also as I said before if you cancel your dd many providers will switch you to a more expensive pay on bill tariff. On average usage this costs £100-120 a year more as has higher standing charges and unit rates
Also the part about having a fee is correct, but the ombudsman first checks if there is a case to answer. You'd need to show that you have a valid reason for your complaint and challenging the deadlock letter they've sent you as a final response.
Doing this because you cancelled your DD is unlikely to get past the first gate so it won't be ombudsman chargeable. If you had a genuine cause for complaint this idea might have some merit but majority won't and it takes a while to get that deadlock letter.
They , thatchers tory government, backed down over the poll tax rebellion in the late 80s.This will never work in this country as people will pay making any gesture pointless and this resulting in those dissenters being prosecuted and blacklisted.
In France it would work but this isn’t France.