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As said earlier we need someone to set up and do something like what Chuba did IE take the forward pass from midfield and make the right decision next be it hold up, move on quickly to the side or take it past the first man. That gave all the midfield a moment to change shape and take defenders...

At least there should now be real competition at centre half. I’d rather have Djksteel get a run at rb and smith be back up and we stick to 4 at the back but I would t be surprised if we try the above mentioned back 3 with jones and one of the new boys as wing backs.

They’ll go to 250 and it’ll get done.

No one will buy the Boro so this is kind of pointless. Gibson has loaned the club huge amounts and would have to be paid back in any sale, or the debt to Gibson taken on. It’s just not going to happen.

The reason we’re losing is more down to bad defending than not scoring. Sure we’re not scoring but the defence is awful and the rest of the team aren’t pressing anywhere near well enough out of possession. Combined with poor passing and it’s really pops at times, we’re conceding easy goals...

I think Crooks is probably the only player we have who can play as a hold up man, knock it down for the two wide forwards and also get on the end of things. I know he’s not as good as Chuba but he’s the only player we have at the moment who can do that

Howson was good last season when we had all of the ball and he wasn’t required to get stuck in. This season with less of the ball and less quality throughout he’s having to do too much.

These players can’t play the way carrick wants, at least not at the moment. Last season if we struggled in the first half seasons half we’d sort it out but so far this season that’s not happening.

Ageeed, DJed never said a word while Colin slagged him off and patronised him before he left on loan. Sometimes that works but not often these days. In the end it just made the player more determined to do well somewhere else to prove him/us wrong, didn’t really do us any good.

Don’t understand the Djed hate. Warnock is and was an unlikable oaf who thinks he’s the star of the show. He can’t relate young modern players and wasted Spence’s potential l. Sure players have to take responsibility but none of us can deny that we let Forrest have a match winner and they went...

seems like we’ll have to wait our turn with deals, premier league first then relegated clubs the rest of us. It’s just money at the end of the day and selling/loaning clubs wait for the last days to get the best deal which is understandable and players I suppose also wait for all options to...

Who can forget Gary Breen to Inter Milan ?

Oh all the transfers this window alone, how many players were injured when they changed clubs?

An Bournemouth are fully explaining the delay in debut being because of injury whereas Ajax……

Neither of which were actual transfers. Very unlikely to drop the bulk of your budget on a player with an injury

You hardly ever get players passing a medical when injured. Far more regularly moves collapse when players are injured and medical is failed. Much more often clubs say a player is injured to explain absence while negotiating a move.

And yet passed a fitness test no bother, no mention whatsoever from Ajax about injury

So we’re all agreed - he isn’t and wasn’t injured, cool.

Long term what are we going to do about Howson? Medium short term really. Probably have to evolve the team rather than expect to find someone similar.

Horses for courses I suppose.