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  1. J

    Union Flag

    I think it’s aimed at the red wall. If they can hang on to a good bit of it Labour are screwed.
  2. J

    Union Flag

    I did say it was the person waving it and not the flag that was the issue.
  3. J

    Union Flag

    I would imagine it’s to get votes
  4. J

    Union Flag

    So politicians in general then
  5. J

    Union Flag

    I’m old enough to remember Cool Britannia. The first thing Blair did when he got the gig as Labour leader was make a speech with that flag behind him. Have a look at pictures from the day he won power he’s surrounded by people waving that flag. Mandleson even used a British bulldog as a prop...
  6. J

    Union Flag

    Well we had better get used to it because there’s gonna be plenty of flag waving this side of the next election. It’s no coincidence that this is hot on the heels of Patel introducing tougher laws on asylum seekers. They want to keep the working class brexit vote in the north and the midlands...
  7. J

    Union Flag

    A UK flag on a UK government building. Whatever next.
  8. J

    RIP George Segal

    RIP
  9. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    I don’t think their views have changed economically ( I assume you are on about the red wall seats here) but they are definitely more socially right wing and the Tories know that. Corbyn s economic policies along with a lurch to the right on law and order and immigration would probably be a vote...
  10. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    I’m completely with you on the incompetence of the Tories. Does that question the standard of the opposition or the choices of the electorate?
  11. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    Nope the old dusty one he got out of the cupboard the other week. Might have been Atlee’s.
  12. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    The fact that the Tories would have done something probably doesn’t make it a great idea
  13. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    I think the battle of Orgreave was discussed at length on here the other week as well. Some things just stick in the memory don’t they?
  14. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    Don’t be surprised to see something akin to his British jobs for British workers slogan dusted down in the near future. Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime or something similar might make a reappearance as well.
  15. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    Err yeah I can see the difference that’s why we agreed above that their hasn’t been a better time in my lifetime domestically. When Iraq was brought into this thread (not by me I hasten to add) it was suggested that that the remedy to protest against the decision to enter into that disastrous...
  16. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    I really need to learn how to hit the reply button properly
  17. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    Every British MP in the last forty years bar Blair and very briefly Brown has been a Tory. Some of us naively expected different from a Labour PM. I know it isn’t in the gift of the electorate that’s why I said so. The only place they can protest is at the ballot box which a previous poster...
  18. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    Yes we should. There have been other occasions when the official opposition has supported the government in getting bad ideas through the commons. The vote to hold a referendum on brexit for instance was overwhelmingly supported by the parliamentary Labour Party. Only the SNP opposed. Some bad...
  19. J

    Stockholm syndrome -the tories

    I didn’t bring up the lives of Iraqis someone else did. I said getting into bed with a right wing American government was a foreign policy disaster which it was. It was suggested that the ballot box was not the place to protest against this. I’m not sure where else the voter that felt very...
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