25th June marks 71 years since the beginning of The Korean War [ "The Dirty War"]

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The number of those left alive who fought in The Korean War [June 25th 1950 - 27th July 1953] is less than those who fought in the Second World War.
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It was essentially a battle between the Soviet / Chinese Forces and the USA [with allied forces] to take control of South East Asia. It was unwelcome by both the Soviets and their Chinese allies and the Americans - both who had lost millions during the Second World War, and were ill equipped to finance and source armed forces in a full scale war.
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The details of the individual battles and the overview of the war - from both sides, are readily available online for anyone interested:

The scale of slaughter considering confinement to the Korean Peninsular [a total area of just over 86,000 square miles] was considerable. [Compare England, Scotland and Wales, which cover approximately 80,000 square miles].

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It became known as "The Dirty War" - between the Communists of the North and the USA in the South. The 38th parallel became the dividinhg line between North and South Korea - there is a "de-militarised Zone" between the two countries, which remains today.
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Both sides look at each other and guard the boundary north and south of the 38th parallel. Imagine a zone like Checkpoint Charlie between East and West Germany in Berlin. The difference being that the border is 165 miles long!
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Temperatures in the peninsular could plummet to -40: equivalent to the well known "Russian Winters" experienced by German Troops during the battle of Stalingrad.
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A rare occasion for a British Tommy to share humour with a South Korean Soldier.

The public in the USA and in China, were provided with little news or information about the War. The USA was focused on rebuilding Japan and Germany, to bolster its post
WWII geopolitical interests in Europe and Asia. The Soviets and the Chinese were determined to Provide a presence in South East Asia - with the Korean peninsular as a buffer.
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Today "technically" the two Korea`s are still at war.

National Service Act:
The 1947 Act - due to come into force in January 1949, was originally intended to call up men aged 18 to 41, but this was changed to 17 to 21.

My Dad joined up to avoid National Service - prefering to be a regular - he said he didnt want to "play at soldiers" at home. He took the Kings "shilling" [George VI] - celebrated his 17th Birthday on June 8th- completed 6 week basic training and was on a ship to Hong Kong at the beginning of September 1950. Having trained in Hong Kong he was shipped to South Korea and volunteered as a Medical Orderly at the time of the Battle of the Imjim River - on the front line. He returned to Hong Kong in late 1951 and, after returning to England for a month, he volunteered for a second posting to Korea, eventually returning back to England in August 1953. He was 2 months past his 20th birthday. On return he took the role of a reserve for a further three years. He only spoke once about his experiences in Korea. He didnt want his medal.
 
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The number of those left alive who fought in The Korean War [June 25th 1950 - 27th July 1953] is less than those who fought in the Second World War.
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It was essentially a battle between the Soviet / Chinese Forces and the USA [with allied forces] to take control of South East Asia. It was unwelcome by both the Soviets and their Chinese allies and the Americans - both who had lost millions during the Second World War, and were ill equipped to finance and source armed forces in a full scale war.
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The details of the individual battles and the overview of the war - from both sides, are readily available online for anyone interested:

The scale of slaughter considering confinement to the Korean Peninsular [a total area of just over 86,000 square miles] was considerable. [Compare England, Scotland and Wales, which cover approximately 80,000 square miles].

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It became known as "The Dirty War" - between the Communists of the North and the USA in the South. The 38th parallel became the dividinhg line between North and South Korea - there is a "de-militarised Zone" between the two countries, which remains today.
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Both sides look at each other and guard the boundary north and south of the 38th parallel. Imagine a zone like Checkpoint Charlie between East and West Germany in Berlin. The difference being that the border is 165 miles long!
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Temperatures in the peninsular could plummet to -40: equivalent to the well known "Russian Winters" experienced by German Troops during the battle of Stalingrad.
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A rare occasion for a British Tommy to share humour with a South Korean Soldier.

The public in the USA and in China, were provided with little news or information about the War. The USA was focused on rebuilding Japan and Germany, to bolster its post
WWII geopolitical interests in Europe and Asia. The Soviets and the Chinese were determined to Provide a presence in South East Asia - with the Korean peninsular as a buffer.
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Today "technically" the two Korea`s are still at war.

National Service Act:
The 1947 Act - due to come into force in January 1949, was originally intended to call up men aged 18 to 41, but this was changed to 17 to 21.

My Dad joined up to avoid National Service - prefering to be a regular - he said he didnt want to "play at soldiers" at home. He took the Kings "shilling" [George VI] - celebrated his 17th Birthday on June 8th- completed 6 week basic training and was on a ship to Hong Kong at the beginning of September 1950. Having trained in Hong Kong he was shipped to South Korea and volunteered as a Medical Orderly at the time of the Battle of the Imjim River - on the front line. He returned to Hong Kong in late 1951 and, after returning to England for a month, he volunteered for a second posting to Korea, eventually returning back to England in August 1953. He was 2 months past his 20th birthday. On return he took the role of a reserve for a further three years. He only spoke once about his experiences in Korea. He didnt want his medal.
There is a book by Tom Hickman called "The Call Up"- It is about NS as experienced by the people who were called up. Tom just collected their stories and put them in his book word for word a they were told to him. It is one of the most poignant books I have read in my life. Bullying, bravery, resentment, anger, fear, humour. They are all there. Some very famous names appear in there too with their stories. You may even see why your dad didn't want his medal. Many soldiers felt the same.
I fully recommend this Roofie
 
There is a book by Tom Hickman called "The Call Up"- It is about NS as experienced by the people who were called up. Tom just collected their stories and put them in his book word for word a they were told to him. It is one of the most poignant books I have read in my life. Bullying, bravery, resentment, anger, fear, humour. They are all there. Some very famous names appear in there too with their stories. You may even see why your dad didn't want his medal. Many soldiers felt the same.
I fully recommend this Roofie
Cheers Trug. I think Dad, like others who returned from Normandy and Dunkirk - wanted to forget what they had been through. Felt guilty as survivors an lost all their mates.
 
Also known as ’The forgotten war’ great book ’The Korean War’ by Max Hastings, well worth a read, can highly recommend. Complex situation that feeds into the Vietnam war.
 
Also to add, General MacArthur ended up totally out of control there out of control from the States, and ended up calling his new born Arthur, Arthur MacArthur ffs 🙄
 
One of my neighbour's family in Cargo Fleet in 50s fought in Korea and brought home a memento - a pregnant Korean. God knows what happened to them. Been to both sides of Korea and technically the war is still on as no peace treaty was ever signed
 
Technically speaking they're still at war. I was out there in 2015-16, depending who you speak to in South Korea will offer different perspective of the war and what it achieved. My uncle also served in the Army during the war, and had nothing but praise for the Koreans, as back then it was arguably still very under developed so much of the fighting was done in challenging conditions.
 
Also known as ’The forgotten war’ great book ’The Korean War’ by Max Hastings, well worth a read, can highly recommend. Complex situation that feeds into the Vietnam war.
Great book, highly recommended. My uncle served in Korea, my father in Palestine when the Jews were fighting for an indipendant homeland,he was there when they blew up the King David hotel in Jerusalem. He was given £10 " signing on fee' to join the Arab legion and go back and fight the Jews when he returned home. Him and his mates took the money, and went to the pub., He never went back.
 
My Dad was with the DLI during the Korean war. He told me there was a spotlight and when that went out the cease-fire would come. The Americans were at the front and at 2330 just 30 mins before the cease-fire the Americans came running past them and the North made 2 miles of progress. He also told me he was on a hill shooting across to the other hill and the Americans were in the valley and a US bomber came along and bombed there lads He said the Americans were the worst fighting men he had ever seen but in books and film they get all the praise
 
My Dad was with the DLI during the Korean war. He told me there was a spotlight and when that went out the cease-fire would come. The Americans were at the front and at 2330 just 30 mins before the cease-fire the Americans came running past them and the North made 2 miles of progress. He also told me he was on a hill shooting across to the other hill and the Americans were in the valley and a US bomber came along and bombed there lads He said the Americans were the worst fighting men he had ever seen but in books and film they get all the praise
It was a real "dirty war" - there was blue on blue and massacres on the North and South side of the border.
The reallity of the war only came to light after the fighting finished.
In many ways it was mirrored by the Vietnam War - truth is always the first casualty of war [as we all know].
When the troops returned from Korea, there were no flag-waving, cheering crowds on the quay-sides.
 
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