Are we backing The Scots V the Czech Republic ?

Scotland will be well up for it and they will probably go at us like their lives depended on it. The danger to us is likely to be a defensive error and we know Stones has the occasional "moment" but I think Mings is less likely to be caught out he is more adept at dealing with the sort of attack posed by Scotland. Scotland's problem will remain the ability to stick it in the net, or more accurately the relative inability to do so. They could score but I don't see them scoring more than one and it would need an element of luck. We could pick them apart particularly Sterling and Foden running at their CBs.
 
In any normal day you would expect England to win they have a better team. As with any game of football its 90 minutes of elite sportsmen that have to be close to their best to win. Scotland will almost certainly manage an extra little in terms of physical effort. If England turn up expecting to win they will be disappointed.

An on it England team will very likely win. A 10% below par England team will have their work cut out.
 
England play their best game = England win. It would be irrelevant to what Scotland do. No question.

However, if Scotland play their best game & England aren't on it, then a shock could happen.

I agree with the above mind, I don't see Scotland scoring more than 1 against us, so if we do score a couple of goals then I think it's as good as game over.
 
Scotland do lack goals and as average as the England back line is you would expect the bulk of possession to be with England and limit the exposure at the back. Where Scotland may do well is set pieces. England need to avoid silly fouls around the box.

As a Scotland fan I am looking forward to it and a Scotland win is not impossible we see poorer teams turn over better teams regularly. It's what makes football great.
 
Laughing said:
Scotland do lack goals and as average as the England back line is you would expect the bulk of possession to be with England and limit the exposure at the back. Where Scotland may do well is set pieces. England need to avoid silly fouls around the box.

As a Scotland fan I am looking forward to it and a Scotland win is not impossible we see poorer teams turn over better teams regularly. It's what makes football great.
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Genuine question:

I understand that Scotland will be up for it, but how does that erase what we saw yesterday?
Scotland have not shown they have any ability to play the game rather than the occasion. They didn't win either of their nations league games in 90 mins to get here and in front of their won fans yesterday lost the plot
 
LaPennaBianca said:
Genuine question:

I understand that Scotland will be up for it, but how does that erase what we saw yesterday?
Scotland have not shown they have any ability to play the game rather than the occasion. They didn't win either of their nations league games in 90 mins to get here and in front of their won fans yesterday lost the plot
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it shouldn’t make a difference over a 90 minute game. The difference in quality should take over.

even yesterday Scotland were very motivated at the start, the Czech team barely got a kick early on but once the game settled, it was a different story.

as long as we score first, it’ll knock the stuffing out of them, they’re probably already deflated after yesterday.
 
HiredGun123 said:
it shouldn’t make a difference over a 90 minute game. The difference in quality should take over.

even yesterday Scotland were very motivated at the start, the Czech team barely got a kick early on but once the game settled, it was a different story.

as long as we score first, it’ll knock the stuffing out of them, they’re probably already deflated after yesterday.
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Yes. I doubt anyone in the England camp is treating this as a fait accompli - Kane, Rashford and Sterling all played vs Iceland.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
Genuine question:

I understand that Scotland will be up for it, but how does that erase what we saw yesterday?
Scotland have not shown they have any ability to play the game rather than the occasion. They didn't win either of their nations league games in 90 mins to get here and in front of their won fans yesterday lost the plot
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If the England players take the pitch with that attitude then Scotland will beat them. Look at domestic football we see upsets regularly.

If England turn up and play anywhere near their best they are very likely to win.
 
Laughing said:
If the England players take the pitch with that attitude then Scotland will beat them. Look at domestic football we see upsets regularly.

If England turn up and play anywhere near their best they are very likely to win.
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The players are professionals who mostly play for big teams and manage to avoid these banana skins enough to win trophies. They will be focussed.

We see upsets regularly across hundreds of games - but Liverpool win most of the games they play, even against Everton, as Everton are worse than them. And the gap in quality between Everton and Liverpool is smaller.

It just seems to me that it's quite fanciful that because Scotland and Scotland's fans really really really want to win, we have to throw out every other consideration. Inferior players, away from home, less tournament experience.

As stated - they really wanted to win yesterday and it didn't do them much good.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
The players are professionals who mostly play for big teams and manage to avoid these banana skins enough to win trophies. They will be focussed.

We see upsets regularly across hundreds of games - but Liverpool win most of the games they play, even against Everton, as Everton are worse than them. And the gap in quality between Everton and Liverpool is smaller.

It just seems to me that it's quite fanciful that because Scotland and Scotland's fans really really really want to win, we have to throw out every other consideration. Inferior players, away from home, less tournament experience.

As stated - they really wanted to win yesterday and it didn't do them much good.
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Oh I don't think anybody is ignoring the gulf in class, but they are football fans who believe in miracles. I didn't see yesterdays game as I was working so can't comment on whether 2-0 was the right result or not. Luck always plays a part, either small or large.
 
Scotland winning wouldn't be far off Cameroon beating Argentina in 90 for shock value. It would certainly be a bigger shock that Icelands win against us, as Iceland were at least competent.

There will probably be a scrappy first 20 mins, but if we move the ball around quick enough we will run the legs off the Scots, then they will be in big trouble. I'm going 3-0 England, for all the talk of our defensive weaknesses we have 5 cleansheets in our last 6 matches and not a lot of clear opportunities conceded in those games.
 
Laughing said:
Oh I don't think anybody is ignoring the gulf in class, but they are football fans who believe in miracles. I didn't see yesterdays game as I was working so can't comment on whether 2-0 was the right result or not. Luck always plays a part, either small or large.
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Yes, without miracles what's the point

I should recognise that I'm hoping for one whenever England play in major tournament!
 
How England perform on Friday will be a real good indicator of how far we go in this tournament, dealing with pressure and anticipation etc. I said there was no easy games in this group and I stand by that.

I'm confident that Sir Gareth will get the best out of these players for Friday night and we will win the game. We need to play the opponents in front of us and not the occasion, but that's a lot easier said than done. Wembley is a quarter full, but you can guarantee the Tartan Army will make a hell of a lot of noise.
 
they might come and park the bus.

england dont have to win, a draw is ok in the context of the group (but not good enough for the fans, who would then give Gareth & players grief).

scotland cannot afford to lose again.
 
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