Auld map of the homeland

[Norman_Conquest]

A copy of that map, or one similar used to be on the wall in The Woodman along with other North Riding maps, etc. I have spent many a pint staring at them.

I try to picture how the lane between Normanby and Ormesby would have looked like prior to the invasion of our forefathers. Like the majority of the places on that map, you can still see the old cottages in the above mentioned from when they were a village. My wife still says she is walking up to the village when going to Normanby Top.

I noticed there is no South Bank, Grangetown or North Ormesby on the map. Obviously, these places grew with the steel industry.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Centralscrutinizer]

What's the rust red little icon thingy mean. Is it a place to stop and get an Auld Parmo

It's the plan for EV charging stations

 

[Cambsred]

It's the plan for EV charging stations

Enough stations there to relieve some of my anxieties.

 

[Lemmy_kilmister]

Have you got a source and approximate date for this map?

D/L it from Facetube...not certain but I think it said it was 17th century. Done a little digging and it looks like it's either by John Speed or Pieter Van den Keere...allegedly 1610-ish


EDIT:Found it...it's dated 1695 and it's by Robert Morden...click on the map and you can zoom in.

Morden: The North Riding of Yorkshire by Rob, British Isles, England, Yorkshire, 1695

Coloured map of North Riding, Yorkshire, England by Robert Morden. Printed in London by Edmund Gibson in 1695. Title: The North Riding of Yorkshire by Rob.

www.vintage-maps.com

 

[Lemmy_kilmister]

Not me friendo, I’m from the Gold Coast and pronounce it properly, brought up not dragged up me marra.
Upper working class, I eat hummus and once had a salad with strawberries in it.

Great map though, fascinating stuff. What Holm? North of the Tees??

Think it might be Saltholme...where all the bird watchers are.

 

[chickenrunner]

What is Arsham now called?

Surely you visited Ye Olde Arsham Parke, wearing a flatte cappe of the very finest cloth whilst supping a goblet of bovrille??

 

[Cogeur_le_Conq]

Think it might be Saltholme...where all the bird watchers are.

among the Bisho Pricks of Durham

 

[Anton_Berg]

It isn't an 'f'.
It is a 'long s' and is still pronounced 's'.
There were complicated rules as to when and where a long s should be used. But generally not as a capital, only as the first 's' in 'ss' and not immediately before an 'f'.

I assumed wrongly, that everyone knew the gist of that.

Portillo's pronunciation of 'Redcar' in current TV series was unexpected. Full marks for research.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

There is of course the possibility that the bloke who made the map was just **** at spelling.

 

[Benjiboy]

Red things are churches or places of worship , map was put on twitter by Andy Preston weeks ago , dates from 1600 ish

 

[newyddion]

Ingullbee Barqueef.. interesting

 

[chickenrunner]

Ingullbee Barqueef.. interesting

I expect him to appear soon in one of your lists of transfer targets with players almost exclusively having entirely unintelligible names.

 

[TeaCider]

I always find it funny that the automated train announcer says Redka Central and Redka East, but then a very posh Maaaaaaarske.

 

[Centralscrutinizer]

I always find it funny that the automated train announcer says Redka Central and Redka East, but then a very posh Maaaaaaarske.

Then faltburn

 

[newyddion]

I expect him to appear soon in one of your lists of transfer targets with players almost exclusively having entirely unintelligible names.

Like Sebastián Barquero.. the 22 year old Costa Rican midfielder who plays for Matagalpa in the Nicaraguan Premier League?

 

[Noroomforpudding]

A fascinating map. Thanks for sharing it.
I found Eggs Cliff particularly interesting as my uncles lived there.
If the cliff, or river bank, was a source of eggs, I assume it was populated by pigeons, doves or gulls as opposed to eagles.

 

[red_clowne]

Eggs, as in Eggs Cliff could be a misspelling of Eccles - denoting a religious origin of the settlement. From the Norman French, I presume, as in ecclesiastical.

 

[fmttmadmin]

Eggs, as in Eggs Cliff could be a misspelling of Eccles - denoting a religious origin of the settlement. From the Norman French, I presume, as in ecclesiastical.

Yes eggs is from eccles = church. Eccles became Eggles
Cliffe - is steep hill.
So is very descriptive.
Cleveland - was land of steep hills.
Before the 1st dictionary spelling was all over the place and not stsndardised at all.
And names would change through time.
Roseberry Topping is a brilliant example. The Vikings called it Odinsburg.
That gradually becomes anglecised burg to bury.
A new Anglo Saxon village is established beneath Odensbury. It becomes known as Newton under Odensbury. Someone, somewhere hears this wrong and takes the R from Under and it becomes Rodensbury which still doesnt sound very English but then again it looks quite like Roseberry and so the name has evolved. Not sure just when and how Topping came about but it helped describe the landmark.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

Isn't there an eaglescliffe and an egglescliffe?

 

[swordtrombonefish]

Isn't there an eaglescliffe and an egglescliffe?

Yes

Egglescliffe has one of my old haunts "The Pot & Glass" that once did a lovely pint. Not beein in 12 or more years now.