Brighton fan rating on the BBC

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Subbuteo_171

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Brighton’s highest ever finish in the top flight
Their highest points total in the PL
Lost fewer games than any club outside the top 4
Beat Tottenham and Arsenal away in consecutive games in April
5 game unbeaten run at the end of the season
5th best away record, although 5th worst at home

And the fan has scored the season 8/10! because they didn’t score at home, went on a 3 month run without a victory and only won 5 times at home…

Surely for club with only 9 seasons in the top flight in their history that has to be a 10/10 season or am I missing something? Or simply shows expectations are too high across the board.

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It's incredible isn't it, how quickly fans forget where they have come from.

But think back to our McClaren days, probably our most successful period ever, certainly in the modern era but we still gave him and certain squad members pelters.

You don't know what you've got until it's gone... would make a good line in a song that!
 
I'd say it defeats the point of 10/10 ratings if you give a 10 for finishing 9th.

You can't rate it higher, despite there being many things that could have gone better.

Brighton have had a great season for a club of their size, there's no arguing with that, but it certainly wasn't the best season they could possibly have had.
 
TeaCider said:
I'd say it defeats the point of 10/10 ratings if you give a 10 for finishing 9th.

You can't rate it higher, despite there being many things that could have gone better.

Brighton have had a great season for a club of their size, there's no arguing with that, but it certainly wasn't the best season they could possibly have had.
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10/10 for winning the league?

What about expectations, you have to think they’ve outperformed given their history and which clubs finished below them?

Crazy.
 
You can't ignore the home form, he's probably sat through some dire performances this season, so considering that the 8 is a good mark and he has taken into consideration how well they have performed elsewhere. 9
 
They've had a fantastic season.

Injuries in the middle of the campaign didn't help (but all teams have injuries etc) but to finish as high as they have done, with that squad is very impressive.

Potter is definitely one of the best English managers out there, if not the best.

If Arsenal end up sacking Arteta, I honestly think Potter would do a great job there. He tries to play exciting football, and plays out from the back. Plus his tactical awareness is brilliant.

Their end of season form - along with some of the tough fixtures they had - was very good.

If they had a decent striker (been saying this about Brighton for a few seasons now) then they could well have snuck into a European spot.

Potter will soon be moving on from Brighton to a bigger club, of there's no doubt IMO.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
10/10 for winning the league?

What about expectations, you have to think they’ve outperformed given their history and which clubs finished below them?

Crazy.
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I think it makes ranking systems pointless if you give the highest possible marks for something that is far from the best possible achievement.

Potter has done a great job, and he was right to call out their fans for booing the team, but 8/10 is still a very good effort for a season.

There are very few seasons in our history where I'd say it was 10/10.
 
I agree that you can't give it a 10. That means perfect. They've exceeded expectations maybe and if they had to rank their best ever seasons it might be somewhere near the top.
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
10/10 for winning the league?

What about expectations, you have to think they’ve outperformed given their history and which clubs finished below them?

Crazy.
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I"m a bit perplexed why one fans season's rating is stirring anybody's heckles. Its one fan, he may be a nutter, he may have had a bet on them finishing 8th - who knows. Fans are by their nature fickle - we can see this daily in here or any Fan message board for that matter - do we care that much?
 
The fact it's in the PL doesn't change the fact that they're not winning a lot.

That's what makes us feel good about football.

FUlham fans probably feel their season has been a 10/10, but you wouldn't point out that they've had healthy mid-table PL seasons in the last 15 years that must have been better. Being in the PL doesn't make much difference to how you feel on a day to day basis. That stuff matters to the cold logical analysis of the outsider, but less when you're living the journey.

I think the cups are quite important to how you feel about a season when you're in mid-table PL wilderness too, and Brighton didn't do much in them. A cup win and a European place would surely be a 10/10 season? It's very optimistic for anyone outside the big 6, but possible.
 
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Just reading the whole of that. The fact that the City fan can (a) list Mahrez, Jesus or Sterling as players to potentially get rid of, and (b) make (a) not sound ridiculous speaks absolute volumes.

And here we are hoping to get more than a measly £10m for Spence...
 
Must just be me then, too easily pleased. From the outside looking in 10 from me given the history.

Not stirring my heckles at all, just thought it worthy of mention.

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If something is 10/10 it can't be Improved, by virtue of all their achievement dd they've had a great season but surly finishing 6th or 4th would be better than 9th and he detailed all the other shortcomings. 8/10 seems fair, imagine many would rate similar.

100%'s and 10/10 get thrown around way too much in reviews, if a film is 8.5/10 on IMDb or 85% on RottenTomatoes it's a good bet it's a top film but there will be better
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
If something is 10/10 it can't be Improved, by virtue of all their achievement dd they've had a great season but surly finishing 6th or 4th would be better than 9th and he detailed all the other shortcomings. 8/10 seems fair, imagine many would rate similar.

100%'s and 10/10 get thrown around way too much in reviews, if a film is 8.5/10 on IMDb or 85% on RottenTomatoes it's a good bet it's a top film but there will be better
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A film is different to a football season. It’s all about what you expect at the start of the season and whether you’ve exceeded it or not.

Of course a season can be improved, look at Liverpool. Would you say that’s not a 10/10 season for them, again it looks and feels like a 10 but given they could have won the league it’s only a 9.5?
 
Maclaren’s boro drew 4 games in a row 0-0 didn’t they, also won 1-0 at man city without having a shot, some dire “entertainment” was on offer in those heady times
 
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Maclaren’s boro drew 4 games in a row 0-0 didn’t they, also won 1-0 at man city without having a shot, some dire “entertainment” was on offer in those heady times
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No. The 1-0 win at City was in the middle of the 0-0s. ;)


Football wasn't always thrilling under SMac, and casual fans do demand a bit of fantasy about their football to keep them interested.

I did object to fans turning their backs during the 05/06 season becasue "it's sooo boring". Not only did we reach the uefa final, and the FA cup semi, at home we beat ManU 4-1, Chelsea 3-0, Arsenal 2-1, Bolton 4-3, Fulham 3-2 and drew with Spurs 3-3. Yes, there were dull and poor matches too, but anyone who follows football knows that not every match is a riot of entertainment.


By contrast, the 96/97 season sometimes gets used as a stick to beat everything that has followed.
However, fans were not coming away from 0-3 vs Spurs, 0-2 vs Leicester, 0-1 vs Saints and Sunderland, 0-0 vs Wimbledon saying "at least that was entertaining!"
 
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Subbuteo_171 said:
A film is different to a football season. It’s all about what you expect at the start of the season and whether you’ve exceeded it or not.

Of course a season can be improved, look at Liverpool. Would you say that’s not a 10/10 season for them, again it looks and feels like a 10 but given they could have won the league it’s only a 9.5?
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Liverpool didn't have a 10/10 season, their fan has rated them as that but don't know how you can have 10/10 and come second, so yes. Liverpool fans I know were all proud of their team but I don't know any that would rate it as 10/10 because to score full marks you need to do the best possible outcome, some will undoubtedly say it was 10/10 but if so what do you score it if they won the league? It's probably a 9.5 being fair as they got pipped right at the end of the final game of the season. City won the league and their family has rated 9/10, again room for improvement - shaky defence and need a big tally striker which they have sourced.

For beating expectations you could say 10/10 but as a review of the season I don't see it being any different to a review of a game or film - you're scoring the good and bad - 8/10 recognises that it is outstanding but there are things that could be better, namely;


"Five home wins all season, a run of 96 days without a goal at the Amex and a three-month stretch without a victory between September and Boxing Day."

How can you have a 10/10 season and not score for 96 days, 3 months without a win and only see 5 home wins? That's what I mean about bandying about 10/10's too easily - you can't, but you can do really well and defy historic performance. 8/10 isn't average/ middle of the road; that's 5/10. They've pushed the envelope but still have development to do and big areas where they stumbled.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
Liverpool didn't have a 10/10 season, their fan has rated them as that but don't know how you can have 10/10 and come second, so yes. Liverpool fans I know were all proud of their team but I don't know any that would rate it as 10/10 because to score full marks you need to do the best possible outcome, some will undoubtedly say it was 10/10 but if so what do you score it if they won the league? It's probably a 9.5 being fair as they got pipped right at the end of the final game of the season. City won the league and their family has rated 9/10, again room for improvement - shaky defence and need a big tally striker which they have sourced.

For beating expectations you could say 10/10 but as a review of the season I don't see it being any different to a review of a game or film - you're scoring the good and bad - 8/10 recognises that it is outstanding but there are things that could be better, namely;


"Five home wins all season, a run of 96 days without a goal at the Amex and a three-month stretch without a victory between September and Boxing Day."

How can you have a 10/10 season and not score for 96 days, 3 months without a win and only see 5 home wins? That's what I mean about bandying about 10/10's too easily - you can't, but you can do really well and defy historic performance. 8/10 isn't average/ middle of the road; that's 5/10. They've pushed the envelope but still have development to do and big areas where they stumbled.
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Liverpool didn’t have a 10/10 season? I suppose they could have won 38/38 in the league.

For Brighton you are missing the point re expectation. If they expected to win every home game, finish top six and scores goals galore with Maupay and Welbeck up front then you might think 8/10 reasonable for where they did end up.
 
Teesste said:
It's incredible isn't it, how quickly fans forget where they have come from.

But think back to our McClaren days, probably our most successful period ever, certainly in the modern era but we still gave him and certain squad members pelters.

You don't know what you've got until it's gone... would make a good line in a song that!
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You don't know what you've got until it's gone... Colin Cooper said just that at the 20 year reunion (1986-2006) he said (1986-1989) was an amazing period, we didnt realise it at the time until it was gone what a time we had played through
 
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