Carlton Morris

I think this is where you can see differences between kieran Scott and Edwards approach. Morris would undoubtedly be a preferred option to sene or even strelec in Edwards eyes. However I think Scott is looking at project players with a potential higher ceiling especially in foward areas. KS would rather find the next latte then buy a Championship ready foward like morris or kieffer Moore with little resale value. Although I wouldn't want Morris i can't stand the guy after his antics against us the other year I do think we need more Championship experience in attacking areas. This lack of experience is a major flaw in our recruitment strategy. Players take so long to get to speed in the championship if you have them all in the same position then your season is a potential write off this what we are seeing now. Mcburnie would have been a really good signing for us. I think there's also disconnect in the type of players Scott's recruiting i think he is still far more aligned with Carrick rather than the more agricultural attacking style of Edwards employed at luton. Stelec for instance doesn't look like an Edwards player at all, thats a big worry, I think Carrick would have put him central to the teams setup like he did with Akpom. Don't get me wrong i don't want Carrick back but I also don't see a coherent attacking approach from Edwards yet. How does Rob Edwards setup team to get goals?. I think January can't come quick enough for RE.
 
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I think there's a bit to me it personally, Browne and Targett are fairly pragmatic championship signings for instance.

One of the big issues is that it's easier to realise re-sale value in attacking players (goals scored etc) so if we're going to sign players to improve and sell on (which is a policy I'm wholly behind) the forward players make most sense.

I would be interested in Scott's thoughts on Saturdays lineup. Picking both Conway and Burgzorg ahead of Strelec spoke volumes for me.
 
changingman said:
I think there's a bit to me it personally, Browne and Targett are fairly pragmatic championship signings for instance.

One of the big issues is that it's easier to realise re-sale value in attacking players (goals scored etc) so if we're going to sign players to improve and sell on (which is a policy I'm wholly behind) the forward players make most sense.

I would be interested in Scott's thoughts on Saturdays lineup. Picking both Conway and Burgzorg ahead of Strelec spoke volumes for me.
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There was a lot of talk of us getting the balance right in the summer with regards to signing proven Championship players, along with the project players. Maybe in hindsight we didn't get the balance right and signed too many defenders with Championship experience, and not enough attacking players.

Maybe instead of signing Nypan and Hansen as attacking mid options we should have just signed one of them, and then the other signing should have been an experienced Championship attacking mid.

Instead of signing Strelec and Sene we maybe should have signed one of them, and then an experienced Championship player, like Carlton Morris for example.
 
TeaCider said:
He was fit an available for 23 games under Edwards last season, he scored 7.

He missed 3 games through injury in that period.
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If that includes cup games then Bloomfield will have had him for 23 as well? 24 if he’d replaced Edwards in time for the FA Cup?

It’s semantics but it was in reply to Corcaigh going on the wind up.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
If that includes cup games then Bloomfield will have had him for 23 as well? 24 if he’d replaced Edwards in time for the FA Cup?

It’s semantics but it was in reply to Corcaigh going on the wind up.
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It doesn't, that was just league matches.

Edwards was sacked after the 26th game.

7 goals in 23 games isn't horrific.
 
TeaCider said:
It doesn't, that was just league matches.

Edwards was sacked after the 26th game.

7 goals in 23 games isn't horrific.
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Fair, I thought Edwards left after 21 games but am mistaken.

Morris, I don’t particularly ‘like’ him because he’s a prolific diver but he’s an effective player at our level. He’s similar to Josh Windass in that if we’d brought them in in the summer without adding others you’d be ‘underwhelmed’ by them but if they came as part of a rebuild of the attacking unit - which is essentially what we did - and there was Strelec, Hansen, Nypan and Sene added too you’d think they were really good options to have.
 
Simply red said:
Hindsight
I would have gone for Ollie Mcburnie , and still would if he's fit in January . Will cost a few million now but worth it.
Jamal Lewis would solve our LWB role , he's on a short contract at PNE until January , I would be poaching him now ready for January .
If he proves his fitness in cameo appearances for PNE give him a contract .
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I thought Mcburnie should have been on our list. One of those players who showed a lot and then lost his way and has found it again at Hull. He's got some of Strelec's attributes for dropping into the 10 positions as runners go beyond him but what would have been better for us is he can play the other way better and can press well (when he wants to). Imagine that despite the fee Strelec was cheaper.
 
We signed a very experienced RB,LB,CB,GK and CM this summer.
Fry, Ayling, Conway, Dieng, Lenihan, McGree, Whittaker and Hackney are all experienced Championship players.

There is a lot of experience in the squad.
We've lost twice.

The final third is where the goals are scored and consequently where the big money is.
I didn't see any posters upset at the signing of Strelec, Sene, Hansen, Nypan or Kante. Quite the opposite.

So, shock horror, players who have started few matches, or played few minutes, haven't yet excelled in a team sitting second.

Yet Carlton Morris and Ollie McBurnie are huge misses.
 
indeedido said:
We signed a very experienced RB,LB,CB,GK and CM this summer.
Fry, Ayling, Conway, Dieng, Lenihan, McGree, Whittaker and Hackney are all experienced Championship players.

There is a lot of experience in the squad.
We've lost twice.

The final third is where the goals are scored and consequently where the big money is.
I didn't see any posters upset at the signing of Strelec, Sene, Hansen, Nypan or Kante. Quite the opposite.

So, shock horror, players who have started few matches, or played few minutes, haven't yet excelled in a team sitting second.

Yet Carlton Morris and Ollie McBurnie are huge misses.
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I see similarities with the karanka premier season when negrado and viktor fisher were seen as great signings on paper, but ultimately didn't deliver. I really hope our forwards come good this season but the 9 out 10 marks for the window were far too high given the lack of experience. The defensive signings all with championship experience have been fantastic mind
 
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Carlton Morris always gives me “good striker in a poor side” vibes, as in he seems to perform at his best when the team he’s in is underperforming.

I think Conway’s the answer, he’s clearly lacking confidence in front of goal at the moment, but you can’t say we’re not creating chances for him. And equally, we’ve gone from being a gung ho pressing side under Carrick to a more rigid and organised outfit, so how our forwards respond to that chance creation will change too - those transitions take time.
 
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