Clear off Wilder

We are over reliant on our wing backs, if you can nullify them we have no pace or creativity in midfield

Howson was absolute gash tonight, giving the ball away or getting it taken off him, crooks looks disinterested, Mowatt may as well have been sitting next to me on my sofa for all he did, mcgree shouldn’t be playing as a 10 he’s not good enough

muniz up front on his own with no support doesn’t work - we bought 3 strikers but we persist with McGree up front, why?

the defensive 3 of fry, Clarke and McNair play like strangers, you could get the M25 between each of them

Jones and Giles can’t defend and tonight did little in attack

we showed no passion, heart, energy, we were too slow, we didn’t press and we didn’t play with any pace

finally after 75 minutes of fanNing about trying to find a system that works we inject a bit of pace and directness - too little too late

wilder is too rigid and inflexible, slavishly sticking to and defending has tactics - its not working, he needs to change, or go
 
Badonde said:
Rumours are Wilder got a £4m pay off from Sheff Utd. Looks like another big pay day on its way 👍💰💰💰
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I'd give him what he is worth, nowt.
Ironops said:
We are over reliant on our wing backs, if you can nullify them we have no pace or creativity in midfield

Howson was absolute gash tonight, giving the ball away or getting it taken off him, crooks looks disinterested, Mowatt may as well have been sitting next to me on my sofa for all he did, mcgree shouldn’t be playing as a 10 he’s not good enough

muniz up front on his own with no support doesn’t work - we bought 3 strikers but we persist with McGree up front, why?

the defensive 3 of fry, Clarke and McNair play like strangers, you could get the M25 between each of them

Jones and Giles can’t defend and tonight did little in attack

we showed no passion, heart, energy, we were too slow, we didn’t press and we didn’t play with any pace

finally after 75 minutes of fanNing about trying to find a system that works we inject a bit of pace and directness - too little too late

wilder is too rigid and inflexible, slavishly sticking to and defending has tactics - its not working, he needs to change, or go
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Yep, when your wing backs are no good at defending and your MF can't be bothered to compete then you are on a hiding to nothing. Oh for the predictability of 4-4-2 where everyone has a clearly defined job to do. This system is absolutely gash.
 
was Mowatt or Howson on the pitch? Mowatt especially is definitely not worth a start IMO, and you can see why Steve Bruce let him go, he's been on a downward spiral since goodness knows when - it's obvious he's not going pull up any trees for Wilder while he's here. I'll say it again with loaners-- they're ok in small amounts but when you have five of them in the squad it could lead to a lot negativity.
 
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Expat Smoggie said:
was Mowatt or Howson on the pitch? Mowatt especially is definitely not worth a start IMO, and you can see why Steve Bruce let him go, he's been on a downward spiral since goodness knows when - it's obvious he's not going pull up any trees for Wilder while he's here. I'll say it again with loaners-- they're ok in small amounts but when you have five of them in the squad it could lead to a lot negativity.
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Fair comment. Half hearted loanees up top were our big problem last season.
 
Expat Smoggie said:
was Mowatt or Howson on the pitch? Mowatt especially is definitely not worth a start IMO, and you can see why Steve Bruce let him go, he's been on a downward spiral since goodness knows when - it's obvious he's not going pull up any trees for Wilder while he's here. I'll say it again with loaners-- they're ok in small amounts but when you have five of them in the squad it could lead to a lot negativity.
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Agree and I said the same thing in the summer the over reliance on loans will cost us
 
Doesn't matter which manager you get in there will all fail.The problem comes from elsewhere and has done for quite a few years hense the decision-making at times has been a shambles at times over the years..Same at Man u at the moment chop and change the manager but the real problems still remain.
 
Paulh10 said:
Doesn't matter which manager you get in there will all fail.The problem comes from elsewhere and has done for quite a few years hense the decision-making at times has been a shambles at times over the years..Same at Man u at the moment chop and change the manager but the real problems still remain.
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Agree it's beyond the manager but at the same time we can't stick to a stubborn old fool like wilder
 
Is it a coincidence that our only period of relative success, where Gibson couldn't just throw money at it, has come with Peter Kenyon guiding/advising the club?

Wilder is a good manager, he's proven it time and again.

We left multiple first team squad numbers available for another three or four to come in. And failed to get what we needed for three months.

We have got rid of our two better technical midfielders, one who was fundamental to our midfield functioning and replaced neither.

Howson has always been a below average champo midfielder for us. He's lightweight, not aggressive, has no great pace, isn't a hard tackler, rarely scores or assists and is a dreadful leader and Captain. He is however a great guy, a model Pro, super fit with a great engine, is rarely injured and covers a few positions. He's the very epitome of a journeyman squad player.

The game is won or lost in central midfield for the majority of games. A midfield three from Mowatt, Howson, McGree and Crooks to start the season is an absolute embarrassment from the club. Crooks is worth a place in the squad for his goals. Mowatt 'should' be based on his history but he looks near enough finished. The other two are weak and lightweight and have looked a liability at times this season.

Massive improvement needed in January whoever is in charge.
 
Replacing Tav with Mowatt has been extremely detrimental to the team.

Looking back now, I believe we signed Mowatt without having a proper idea of how he was going to fit into the system - the thinking behind it will have been "This guy has been a good Championship midfielder in the past, so maybe he can do well for us".

Tav is an energetic box-to-box midfielder. We needed to replace him with another energetic box-to-box midfielder. In reality, whoever was signed was always going to be a downgrade, but you still have to replace him with a player who possesses similar attributes.

It's like the equivalent of signing a box-to-box midfielder who has poor technical ability, to play in a team who play tika-taka football. It doesn't work.
 
Can anyone get his post match comments? The page opens on the website and app but no video loads....?
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
Which is concerning when half of them are his signings, and new signings. You’d think and hope they’d be busting a gut to impress.
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Only bust gut was Watmore although I felt a bit sorry for Muniz who does look well capable at this level.

Plenty of busted flushes out there, Mowatt, Howson, McNair, Clarke, McGree, Crooks. Jones going in lightweight circles and needs to take a leaf out Watmores book on direct football.

Wilder picks the team and decides on tactics. Useless on both counts.

Watmore hasto start otherwise the team just f bimble around aimlessly.
 
The Mowatt signing was purely for me due to Wilders obsession with 'Balance' and wanting a left footed player to replace Tav and attempting to use Mowatt
in the same role as Tav, as a sort of half winger in a midfield three to the left of the anchor

Problem with that of course is that Mowatt has almost no attributes at all to pull off that role, and so looks completely lost and clueless how to play it
He is ponderously slow, not at all suited to playing there, and its costing the team

I think the same applies to Clarke, he was signed purely because he's left footed, looks way too slow to me to play as one of wilders 'overlapping'
Centrebacks, and due to his lack of mobility and technique slows down the teams transitions massively, you can see why he never got a single start
for Brighton, hes just not technical or mobile enough for that level, probbaly better off in a back 4 as a stopper with a young lad behnd him sweeping up

I thought Wilder played Tavin the wrong position last year on the left of the mdifield 3, it restricted him into basically being purely a support pass for the left wingback, when if he had used
him right of the central midfield 3, it openend Tav up up to drive into the box or get around the box to cut in and shoot on his favourite foot

But thats Wilder, he does appear to be very dogmatic to his set ups, problem now is the team is actually getting worse the longer he is here and the more he signs
players to suit his own system, which leads me to the conclusion he is completely overestimating all this left footed balance nonsense at the expense of mobility and
technical ability
 
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Gunslinger said:
The Mowatt signing was purely for me due to Wilders obsession with 'Balance' and wanting a left footed player to replace Tav and attempting to use Mowatt
in the same role as Tav, as a sort of half winger in a midfield three to the left of the anchor

Problem with that of course is that Mowatt has almost no attributes at all to pull off that role, and so looks completely lost and clueless how to play it
He is ponderously slow, not at all suited to playing there, and its costing the team

I think the same applies to Clarke, he was signed purely because he's left footed, looks way too slow to me to play as one of wilders 'overlapping'
Centrebacks, and due to his lack of mobility and technique slows down the teams transitions massively, you can see why he never got a single start
for Brighton, hes just not technical or mobile enough for that level, probbaly better off in a back 4 as a stopper with a young lad behnd him sweeping up

I thought Wilder played Tavin the wrong position last year on the left of the mdifield 3, it restricted him into basically being purely a support pass for the left wingback, when if he had used
him right of the central midfield 3, it openend Tav up up to drive into the box or get around the box to cut in and shoot on his favourite foot

But thats Wilder, he does appear to be very dogmatic to his set ups, problem now is the team is actually getting worse the longer he is here and the more he signs
players to suit his own system, which leads me to the conclusion he is completely overestimating all this left footed balance nonsense at the expense of mobility and
technical ability
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Agree with your assessment of Clarke he can't play as outside centre back he gets caught forward and has no recovery pace and with giles up as well it makes us wide open. Mowbray even mentioned it as a tactic post match last week.
 
Gunslinger said:
But thats Wilder, he does appear to be very dogmatic to his set ups, problem now is the team is actually getting worse the longer he is here and the more he signs
players to suit his own system, which leads me to the conclusion he is completely overestimating all this left footed balance nonsense at the expense of mobility and
technical ability
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McNair at LCB was used as the evidence for that, but look at how poorly he's performed at times this year as RCB. His feet weren't the problem.
 
Scrug said:
Wouldn’t surprise me, he throws them under the bus at every opportunity.
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Currently they are throwing him under the bus, we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors but the players aren’t happy with Wilder, positional play quite often lacked discipline.
 
The club sold our best midfielder on the eve of the season, didn’t replace him & have spent a combined £6m on 2 forwards with terrible track-records that he didn’t want, while pleading poverty when it came to negotiating for players he did want.

I wouldn’t blame him if he walked
 
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