Derby fans singing about Having a party when Steve Gibson dies

Why do that , rather than go in the away end?
To cause trouble, and respond to the songs were planning to sing i imagine. Its why I'm so keen to keep the whole thing on defending Gibson and not related to taking the **** out of their predicted, I've read some comments on their forum about fans looking at other stands, with any luck we stopped it via IP address etc.
 
To cause trouble, and respond to the songs were planning to sing i imagine. Its why I'm so keen to keep the whole thing on defending Gibson and not related to taking the **** out of their predicted, I've read some comments on their forum about fans looking at other stands, with any luck we stopped it via IP address etc.
Don't you have to have an MFC digital account to buy tickets online? Surely it wouldn't have been difficult to spot new sign ups with an address in the East Midlands to prevent that?
 
To cause trouble, and respond to the songs were planning to sing i imagine. Its why I'm so keen to keep the whole thing on defending Gibson and not related to taking the **** out of their predicted, I've read some comments on their forum about fans looking at other stands, with any luck we stopped it via IP address etc.
I guess we'll see how many actually have the bottle to do that.
Hopefully very few, and they'll be quickly turfed out.
 
To cause trouble, and respond to the songs were planning to sing i imagine. Its why I'm so keen to keep the whole thing on defending Gibson and not related to taking the **** out of their predicted, I've read some comments on their forum about fans looking at other stands, with any luck we stopped it via IP address etc.
right so instead of buying tickets in the away end,they have bought half the south stand out. so they can respond to the red faction. i understand now
 
I'm not sure Gibson has done his best to destroy the work prospects of millions of people, politics is far more intrusive in everyones lives.

This is also a nothing to do with this thread, about singing about the chairman of a sports club.
The concept is the same, celebrating a death of a human being
 
The concept is the same, celebrating a death of a human being
I guess the response to that is, are there no acceptable reasons for celebrating someones death? Peter Sutcliffe? Fred West? Timmy Mallet? Hitler?

Undoubtedly Thatcher cost lives, destroyed lives, and over a period of time, and for what gain exactly? What justice, fairness and equality was she seeking? If you are comparing Thatchers systematic destruction of the north with Gibson's attempts to hold Derby's cheating to account and get compensation for his own personal losses then I think you are barking up the wrong tree
 
They wont find a welcome anywhere in the ground other than the away end.
Goodness help them if they have bought tickets in the South Stand.
That is encouraging or assisting others to commit a criminal offence. [See Serious Crime Act 2007]. Inciting violence by whatever means is a crime.
Stay away and listen to BBC Radio Derby on FM or 1116 A.M if you live in the Peak District.
My bet is that the FIU and DPS have sourced and synthesised their intelligence. (y)

 
Thanks for coming and outing yourself Mr Ram, hope you survive but that it's many many years of lower league football until you right yourselves.
I'm a Boro fan since 1973. I just don't think this action is worth it. Gibson won't win and Derby have been punished by the league with a hefty points deduction. We were significantly weaker than all of the play-off sides and wouldn't have gone up in any case. If Derby had been promoted themselves and accessed the riches of the Premiership, then Gibson's action would've had more merit. As it is, it just seems like sour grapes. Move on, and let Derby and their supporters move on too.
 
I just don't think this action is worth it.
I think creating further jeopardy for cheats IS worth it, if Morris know he would be financially liable for breaking ffp, then he would have probably not done it and Derby wouldn't be in this mess. Doing this IS worth it in scaring other chairman from acting in this way

Gibson won't win
That's an opinion, but without having access to the details of an arbitration process you simply don't know and of course it isn't just Gibson, it's Couhig too

Derby have been punished by the league with a hefty points deduction
They have, however they are looking for a way of writing off debt AND keeping their playing assets. That can't be justice. But, Gibson isn't doing this to punish, he wants compensation. How much of his own personal money has Gibson put into this club? How do you thin he feels sticking to the rules, and seeing other teams make his investment worthless because they don't follow the rules?

We were significantly weaker than all of the play-off sides and wouldn't have gone up in any case.
It's unlikely, but not impossible. I think had Derby not cheated, we would have a 95%+ chance of reaching the play-offs, a 50% chance of beating a Leeds side that we had drawn twice with, and probably a 10% chance of beating Villa on the day to reach the prem. You can argue a % here or there. But you can't realistically state that we wouldn't (100%) have reached the final or gained promtion.

If Derby had been promoted themselves and accessed the riches of the Premiership, then Gibson's action would've had more merit.
Not really relevant to the point at hand

As it is, it just seems like sour grapes.
That's an opinion, but the fact that Gibson drew attention to this before that season ended makes it seem a poor conclusion

Move on, and let Derby and their supporters move on too.
They haven't paid their debts, they absolutely should not move forward.
 
I'm a Boro fan since 1973. I just don't think this action is worth it. Gibson won't win and Derby have been punished by the league with a hefty points deduction. We were significantly weaker than all of the play-off sides and wouldn't have gone up in any case. If Derby had been promoted themselves and accessed the riches of the Premiership, then Gibson's action would've had more merit. As it is, it just seems like sour grapes. Move on, and let Derby and their supporters move on too.

We beat West Brom twice.
We were better than Leeds twice, despite both being draws.
Aston Villa comfortably beat us twice.

But West Brom beat Villa and drew with them in the league, so there's no guarantee that we'd even have to face Villa.
Even if we had, our defeat to Norwich in the play-off final proves that the league match results bear little relevance.
 
Even if we had, our defeat to Norwich in the play-off final proves that the league match results bear little relevance.
great point, I'd forgotten about that.

For me 95% of 1m for semi = 950K
50% of 3.5m for losing final = 1..75m
10% chance of 150m for reaching prem 15m

17.7m is a fair reflection of our opportunity loss. I'd take half of that in arbitration, or 12m out of court settlement if they refused arbitration and it went legal.

But we can all put our own value on it. Fact is Gibson shouldn't be precluded from recovering his investment, where costs are incurred because of competitors who breach industry rules
 
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I guess the response to that is, are there no acceptable reasons for celebrating someones death? Peter Sutcliffe? Fred West? Timmy Mallet? Hitler?

Undoubtedly Thatcher cost lives, destroyed lives, and over a period of time, and for what gain exactly? What justice, fairness and equality was she seeking? If you are comparing Thatchers systematic destruction of the north with Gibson's attempts to hold Derby's cheating to account and get compensation for his own personal losses then I think you are barking up the wrong tree
I’m not, I comparing them notion f celebrating someone’s death. Middlesbrough fans being offended by the Gibson chant when they’d happily celebrate thatchers death.

i haven’t disputed that thatcher was a horrible person.
 
I’m not, I comparing them notion f celebrating someone’s death. Middlesbrough fans being offended by the Gibson chant when they’d happily celebrate thatchers death.

i haven’t disputed that thatcher was a horrible person.
Is Gibson a horrible person trying to personally destroy. Have you no appreciation of the money he has put into our club, and how he might be a little irked and want compensation for that money being wasted due to a cheating club? I totally understand why he wants compensation, don't you?
 
Is Gibson a horrible person trying to personally destroy. Have you no appreciation of the money he has put into our club, and how he might be a little irked and want compensation for that money being wasted due to a cheating club? I totally understand why he wants compensation, don't you?
Again I haven’t banged on about any of that. I’m not defending derby county fans, the club or anything like that.

I agree the song is crass, I’ve said I wouldn’t celebrate a death, unlike some boro fans who were pretty crass themselves about thatcher
 
Again I haven’t banged on about any of that. I’m not defending derby county fans, the club or anything like that.

I agree the song is crass, I’ve said I wouldn’t celebrate a death, unlike some boro fans who were pretty crass themselves about thatcher
again is there ever a point where you can celebrate the death of someone, Peter Suttcliffe, Myra Hindley, Declan Donnelly, Adolf Hitler?
 
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