Wasting your time posting that on here roofie. This place is 'centrist' central. They're not interested in the truth. They just want to blame the left for everything.
Ex-MP Jared O’Mara made up expenses claims to fund cocaine habit?
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FabioPorkpie
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You’ve argued he was a known Corbyn supporter prior to being elected
I want to know how you specifically, Lefty knew he was a Corbyn supporter in 2017, prior to being selected? I don’t want to read his resignation letter I want to know how he was pushed into his position as you have claimed by the left because of his politics?
I also would like to know how momentum was involved since you’ve repeated it twice O’Mara was backed by momentum?
And Labour has a national executive committee which Corbyn sat on and had 1 vote out of dozens of representatives, including unions etc
There’s also a general Secretary who was Ian McNicol at the time. He is from the right of the party
When the election was called in 2017 Corbyn wanted the constituency labour group (in this case Hallam Sheffield) to select candidates. Corbyn was outvoted and McNichol and others opted for a panel process which McNichol would select the panel members
This was throughout the country and in no way can the responsibility be laid at Corbyns hands.
But in terms of O’Mara he wasn’t a know Corbynite when he was selected and no central office apparently didn’t do checks.
There seems to be an awful lot of lying going on
I keep seeing Streeting talked up and referred to as some kind of up and coming Labour superstar and future leader/PM.
I can’t be the only one who‘s heart sinks every time I hear that kind of chat, surely? The bloke scares the **** out of me.
If they'll give the leadership to Starmer then they'll give it to anyone. Streeting frightens me, too. There's nothing there behind the eyes. I'm not even sure that he's human. I feel the same way about Jess Phillips.
Lefty
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You’ve argued he was a known Corbyn supporter prior to being elected
I want to know how you specifically, Lefty knew he was a Corbyn supporter in 2017, prior to being selected? I don’t want to read his resignation letter I want to know how he was pushed into his position as you have claimed by the left because of his politics?
I also would like to know how momentum was involved since you’ve repeated it twice O’Mara was backed by momentum?
And Labour has a national executive committee which Corbyn sat on and had 1 vote out of dozens of representatives, including unions etc
There’s also a general Secretary who was Ian McNicol at the time. He is from the right of the party
When the election was called in 2017 Corbyn wanted the constituency labour group (in this case Hallam Sheffield) to select candidates. Corbyn was outvoted and McNichol and others opted for a panel process which McNichol would select the panel members
This was throughout the country and in no way can the responsibility be laid at Corbyns hands.
But in terms of O’Mara he wasn’t a know Corbynite when he was selected and no central office apparently didn’t do checks.
There seems to be an awful lot of lying going on
I hadn't been able to watch the video before I last replied.
Having done so now, I'll change my view of where the blame most likely lays.
I'm aware of the actions of McNichol and a small number of his close associates in Labour Central Office 2015-17. My view of him is he acted so disgracefully against the elected leader of his own Party, regardless of whether he was right or wrong in his assessment of that leader, that he should have been the very first person kicked out of the Party. Not supporting a leader or some of his measures is one thing, arguing against is one thing, but actively opposing, undermining and betraying to the other side is quite another. You can openly distance yourself, disassociate yourself on good moral, principled grounds. Corbyn did that himself hundreds of times. When you actively work to sabotage something, to undermine it from within, that crosses the treachery line for me.
I find the statements made that McNichol manipulated at least some of the selections plausible. I'm not convinced some on the left in LOTO didn't know O Mara was a Corbyn fan, but I can believe that the selection committee didn't know, hence he got selected.
My point about process is still made, indeed emphasised in the video, but i will point the finger of blame as more likely at the Right.
I think the difference between the Left and the Right in the Party during the 2015-17 period is that the Left were generally more honourable, but naive and just incompetent politically. The Right were dishonourable, but unfortunately generally more proficient, capable and ruthless. They still are ruthless, I think. Both sides were far too much about settling scores. The Left were all about gaining power within Labour than for Labour though and still are. The Right were about preventing that 2015-17, though from 2017 that battle was lost.
r00fie1
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The original post was made to highlight the hippocracy of drug taking - where working class people are demonised and treated like an under-class, particularly young people. Those in Parliament - far from setting a good example - get away with it: using tax-payers money to fund their drug addiction. Its disgusting. I wonder if 30p Lee could fund his daily bog-roll needs?
Quicksilvera
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Hopefully this has a domino effect which sees multiple Tory MPs sent to prison.