tonybiriyani
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Agree totally, squabbling from posters in these circumstances is not good.
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BoroMart
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Brexit is the biggest single political divisive thing in my lifetime, it was Tory ideology that brought it to attention. The insults go in both directions on this one.
Regarding uneducated, I'll repeat again, there is a clear correlation between education in a constituency and that constituency voting remain. In the past I have provided the publicly available datasets necessary to correlate, and asked anyone to disprove it....still waiting. That isn't to say that every brexit voter is uneducated, or that every remainer is educated, but the correlation exists and really isn't surprising.
I haven't seen the term scummy used personally, on either side.
I've never seen people wishing physical harm, but happy for you to highlight it. If you mean people wishing that job losses and financial issues happen to brexiteers first, that again is simply about taking accountability and responsibility for your decisions in life.
LaPennaBianca
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All I've seen is certain posters rolling this out over and over again, playing the woe is me card.
I've happily called posters who happen to support Brexit stupid when they've said something stupid. I will do again. It's nothing to do with their politics.
Generally what politicians do day to day rarely has a massive effect on our lives.
But with Brexit and the Virus both coming at the same time we have issues that we've all been affected by..... some of us to deadly effect and the failings of Govt have been laid bare.
Probably just about the two biggest events with the biggest effect on us since the second world war.
Tbh the way society is I'm suprised the reaction hasn't been worse.
If I recall correctly, the correlations you provided were between voting and formal qualifications, not education.
Interesting.
blogs.lse.ac.uk
Educational attainment alone can correctly classify over 90% of local authorities by voting outcome in the EU referendum
While it is well established that educational attainment is highly correlated with Brexit voting patterns, the predictive capacity of education has attracted less attention. Using full-sample and s…
blogs.lse.ac.uk
Only interesting in the sense that it displays that the authors aren't very well-educated, although I'm sure they have formal qualifications. They appear to conflate the accumulation of educational qualifications with educational attainment.Interesting.
Educational attainment alone can correctly classify over 90% of local authorities by voting outcome in the EU referendum
While it is well established that educational attainment is highly correlated with Brexit voting patterns, the predictive capacity of education has attracted less attention. Using full-sample and s…
Quite stark really.
You can read into it what you will but the higher the qualifcation the less likely you were to vote for Brexit.
Or you could say the bigger the halfwit the more likely you are to have voted leave.
www.statista.com
You can read into it what you will but the higher the qualifcation the less likely you were to vote for Brexit.
Or you could say the bigger the halfwit the more likely you are to have voted leave.
Brexit votes by education 2016 | Statista
In the Brexit referendum that took place on June 23, 206, approximately 74 percent of people with a degree voted to Remain in the European Union, compared with 26 percent who voted to Leave.
www.statista.com
Randy
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Seems that way. As long as you are anti brexit and anti Tory then excuses are fine, so it seems.
Stuff that has been posted as attacks on red, blue, yellow, green, purple and polka dot is still a bad idea. I've certainly looked at my political posting and given my head a wobble after yesterday's violence.
Laughing
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I am against brexit but try and look at threads from a balanced perspective and the finger pointing and name calling is obscene, toxic and uncalled for and is justified by... well who knows, I certainly don't understand it.
What I know for an absolute fact is that the conversations that go on here would never happen in the real world.
BoroMart
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Formal qualifications are about as good a measure of education as you will find...that's erm the very purpose of formal qualifications
BoroMart
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that of course leads to the question are socio-economic factors driven by education or is education performance driven by socio-economic factors.
Some of the worst performing schools in the country are in those deprived areas.
Laughing
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I would guess at the second correlation, not the first, that is based on just a couple of drivers though.
BoroMart
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nobody has supported acts of violence or unadulterated abuse towards brexiteers. Stop playing the victim.
If you say something nonsensical or based on faith not fact, I'll challenge it. If you say something that is abusive I'll call it out. That is just holding people to account for their actions.
What I won't do is just throw abuse out simply because of the decision you made
Laughing
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Some do though BM. And as for tossing abuse out, we shouldn't do that, in any event.
Only across a fairly narrow age cohort (at least in England and Wales). Grade inflation has rendered unadjusted time-series data of little value. The main predictor of educational qualification is age, which is strongly correlated with how (and if) people voted in the referendum.
BoroMart
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of course age is a factor, but huge numbers of people have had access to further and higher education for 35 years, those people are now approaching 60. It's only the over 60s that didn't have easy access and over 60s and to be honest with life expectancy in those deprived areas, there aren't as many of them. So it evens up and makes education a stronger factor.
Randy
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I'm not playing the victim.
If someone says something abusive you'll call it out? So where were you and which side of the fence were you stood on when some on here were called simple? Or where were you when some on here were in favour of the unvaccinated been declined medical treatment on the NHS?
Yep.
Exactly.
Good day to you Mart, I trust your weekend will continue to be a good one.