Fantastic thread on where we are now with covid.

I know quite a few people who have had Covid in the past month who have had it previously and most have said this bout is much worse than previous.
 
Clin Dir of IPC's advice. He attends all the national meetings and has been up to speed on what is going to happen in the past.

Doesn’t make it right though.

This is one of the reasons the CEV population is effectively being excluded from healthcare. It’s just not safe to attend.
 
Only targeted boosters now. Spring and Autumn for over 75s, Autumn only for a slightly wider group.

That's the other ticking timebomb here. There are no vaccines available now for the vast majority of the population. People can't even pay for one like the flu jab.

As people's immunity from the initial vaccines wears off completely, the situation could get much worse very quickly.

It’s not a novel virus anymore to our immune systems . Despite mutations , our immune system is a lot better equipped to deal with it than when it first appeared

Think the world is nearly at the stage now where it’s endemic , if it isn’t already
 
Can anyone provide data to support the comment in the 2nd tweet?
’The vaccination massively reduces the risk of serious illness and death’

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How's about there was millions dying before the vaccines, there wasn't after?


Only about 19 million lives saved worldwide. That's just according to the Lancet mind, I'm sure some on here know better.🙄
 
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How's about there was millions dying before the vaccines, there wasn't after?


Only about 19 million lives saved worldwide. That's just according to the Lancet mind, I'm sure some on here know better.🙄
The first statement alone is very poor as evidence because it fails to distinguish between mass vaccination and other factors that cause 2023 to differ from 2020 which include as significant in the case of Covid mass prior exposure to infection, the predominance of a less lethal subtype, and to a lesser but non-trivial extent better treatments.

A proper study of course does filter these out and still produces clear and compelling evidence, but it’s important to do so and to leave the more sloppy thinking to the anti-science brigade.
 
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