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king_hellfire

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Please lock this post if you have to, as I’m not interested in getting into any arguments with any posters and risk getting banned. 👍🏻



This is just a post for the sake of clarity.



Is the trans debate not welcome on this site?

If not, that’s fine but on today’s thread, which I only read that last 2 pages, and only contributed a couple of posts you locked it, along with posting the following message…



‘Okay, I haven't been that attentive on the board for a few days and I find a whole bunch of reports to admin this evening.

I've looked through them all. Some of the conduct in this thread has been pretty poor. Some insidious trolling, abusive responses and some plain ignorant bigotry. A few posters are going to have a day or so on the naughty step.

Thread will be locked.’



You also posted something along the lines of certain posters being transphobic after deleting a similar thread a while ago. I don’t know how much you know about the ins-and-outs of the trans debate but if you know quite a bit you’ll know that due to the trans movement’s umbrella encapsulating do many contradictory viewpoints that virtually everyone holds at least one view that can be deemed as being transphobic.

Now, I don’t know what anyone else posted on today’s thread but what I posted was nothing but the truth. I didn’t even enter the debate citing examples as it would have just led to calls for bannings like the last time.


It just seems strange that when I made posts in the past in favour of atheism and against Brexit using the same logic as I use in the trans debate, it wasn’t a problem.
I know it’s an emotional subject, rather than a logical one, for many people on here but surely adults don’t need shielding from the talking points that arise from allowing fully intact males to use women’s spaces, and people who have gone through male puberty competing against people who have gone through female puberty, among many more unfair scenarios.


To reiterate, this post is for the purpose of clarity only. 👍🏻
 
sherlock1969 said:
I genuinely think you need some help, it’s not normal to hold this much bitterness towards a group of people.
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Men are men. Women are women. That’s fact. If men ‘feel’ that they’re women and want to live as women then great, go for it. But they’re not women, so they shouldn’t use women’s spaces.

It’s crazy to think that this is seen as some sort of bigoted, transphobic viewpoint. It’s not, it’s reality.


‘Cis’ men need to allow TIMs to wear what they want without repercussions. If they don’t do that they should be harshly punished.
 
king_hellfire said:
Men are men. Women are women. That’s fact. If men ‘feel’ that they’re women and want to live as women then great, go for it. But they’re not women, so they shouldn’t use women’s spaces.

It’s crazy to think that this is seen as some sort of bigoted, transphobic viewpoint. It’s not, it’s reality.


‘Cis’ men need to allow TIMs to wear what they want without repercussions. If they don’t do that they should be harshly punished.
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Yeah, whatever, I’d already deleted my post because I just can’t be bothered with you….
 
sherlock1969 said:
Even the term TIMs is intentionally derogatory. Pathetic.
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And the words ‘transphobe’ and ‘bigot’ aren’t?

I used it for brevity.


A transwoman is a male who feels like a woman.
How does he know what being a female ‘feels’ like considering he’s never been one?
Even if he doesn’t ‘feel’ like a man (whatever that means) how does he know that what he’s feeling is what a woman ‘feels’?
Are you just going to take his word for it?

As I said before, with you it’s emotion over logic.
 
sherlock1969 said:
Pot. Kettle.

Anyway, I’m out because this thread is only going one way and I don’t want to be involved with it.
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That’s fine. Just take a look at this, digest it, and debunk it. Even if you keep your conclusion to yourself.

Just look at it logically and see what you get from it, and question if you’re as logical as you think you are.


‘A transwoman is a man who feels like a woman.

How does he know what being a woman ‘feels’ like considering he’s never been one?

Even if he doesn’t ‘feel’ like a man (whatever that means) how does he know that what he’s feeling is what a woman ‘feels’?

Are you just going to take his word for it?’
 
The answer to this question and others is out there for you if you are open to hearing it. But you’re not because you believe your argument to be founded on inarguable logic.

There is literally no point in anyone furthering this discussion with you because all you want is an argument where you get to reiterate and push your line of thinking. You’ve no interest in considering that of others.
 
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