Gun fights in Middlesbrough

Unfortunately the Albanian gangs that have moved into the area have cornered the cocaine, cannabis and crack markets, by selling high purity product. The Kurds also have their fingers in this pie. Both gangs are ruthless and think nothing of using their weapons. Welcome to 21st century England. Expect to see a lot more of this in the future.
 
Wilf said:
so not bothered, but concerned.

has there been concern previously when drug turf wars have been ongoing in the town, and is the concern for innocents 'war' related or drug related.

in what way did any previous concern show itself , concerning the town


not bothered or concerned
just inquisitive, Probably.
Tunbridge Wells.
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Yes both gangs have been at each other for a while now unfortunately. It's only a matter of time before an innocent bystander gets caught up in it
 
Londons_Moggie said:
Yes both gangs have been at each other for a while now unfortunately. It's only a matter of time before an innocent bystander gets caught up in it
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Why would "innocent bystanders" [victims] [white] be watching?
What about the dealers, couriers and users who are white and live in places like Saltburn, Guisbro`, Brambles Farm, Skelton and Marske.
How many people do you know who use cocaine ["sniff"] complain that foreigners have taken over "our" white English drugs trade?
They dont give a monkeys.
Would you prefer the "drugs gangs" to be white?
Or is your real motive to whip up "innocent bystanders" into your blame game for political reasons?
Youl be telling us next that the trade in opium from Afghanistan didnt increase after "we" [our Army] invaded that country?

 
r00fie1 said:
Why would "innocent bystanders" [victims] [white] be watching?
What about the dealers, couriers and users who are white and live in places like Saltburn, Guisbro`, Brambles Farm, Skelton and Marske.
How many people do you know who use cocaine ["sniff"] complain that foreigners have taken over "our" white English drugs trade?
They dont give a monkeys.
Would you prefer the "drugs gangs" to be white?
Or is your real motive to whip up "innocent bystanders" into your blame game for political reasons?
Youl be telling us next that the trade in opium from Afghanistan didnt increase after "we" [our Army] invaded that country?
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Innocent people get shot regularly in thee kind of scenario's.

Is your defence that I mentioned they were foreign drug dealers? Purely a statement of fact. Is this why you are trying the race baiting angle to draw an argument with me?

You could just condemn their actions, you'd come out of it looking better.

You won't draw me into a race argument to fit your narrative sunshine, but nice attempt.
 
r00fie1 said:
What about the [non - foreign] "drug gangs' "at war with each other in the town and the potential for innocent lives to be lost because of it" {?}
Are "drugs gangs" all dark-skinned from Muslim countries?
"Racist whips up !!!! shocker!"
That will be something new wont it.(n)
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Please don't refer to me as a racist, as you have no basis for that view. I'd like you to delete the comment please
 
r00fie1 said:
Why would "innocent bystanders" [victims] [white] be watching?
What about the dealers, couriers and users who are white and live in places like Saltburn, Guisbro`, Brambles Farm, Skelton and Marske.
How many people do you know who use cocaine ["sniff"] complain that foreigners have taken over "our" white English drugs trade?
They dont give a monkeys.
Would you prefer the "drugs gangs" to be white?
Or is your real motive to whip up "innocent bystanders" into your blame game for political reasons?
Youl be telling us next that the trade in opium from Afghanistan didnt increase after "we" [our Army] invaded that country?
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It's not the insignificant and irrelevant thing you appear to be making it out to be Roofie.
It is not racist to identify who is at the core of illegal activities.
 
r00fie1 said:
What about the [non - foreign] "drug gangs' "at war with each other in the town and the potential for innocent lives to be lost because of it" {?}
Are "drugs gangs" all dark-skinned from Muslim countries?
"Racist whips up !!!! shocker!"
That will be something new wont it.(n)
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@rob_fmttm Can you do something about this post as I'm not happy at being called a racist for no reason. It needs removing
 
Londons_Moggie said:
Innocent people get shot regularly in thee kind of scenario's.

Is your defence that I mentioned they were foreign drug dealers? Purely a statement of fact. Is this why you are trying the race baiting angle to draw an argument with me?

You could just condemn their actions, you'd come out of it looking better.

You won't draw me into a race argument to fit your narrative sunshine, but nice attempt.
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Its the fact you use race and nationality to fuel your "concern" - classic.
No race - baiting here.
My narrative is that "drugs" use is a major issue - nothing to do with race or colour of skin or nationality.

Its the laws in this country and the ideology of "Drugs Tzar" and "War on drugs" which causes the issues.
Decriminalising drugs like Canabbis - selling it on licensed premises, would destroy part of the illicit drugs market overnight.
Enabling access to clean kit and heroin substitutes would reduce the risk of shared needles and infections.

Illegalisation of "legal highs" has increased the drug "problem" across the country - with people making a fortune out of street drugs [MDMA] filled with all kinds of rubbish.

Taking back control from "drugs gangs" begins with a complete reorientation of UK Policy towards the use of illicit substances.

More people die each year from Alcohol - related deseases than from the use of heroin - but Alcohol is big business and legal.
The social fall - out from alcohol includes domestic violence, mental health issues, including dependency and many other serious issues.
I`ve never seen anyone in A&E on Friday night covered in blood from fighting because they had too many spliffs?!

This country`s policy regards drug and substance use is the root of the problem.
In the 60s LSD was a big issue, then amphetamines, etc, etc.

Whats happening today is nothing new.
It was white hippies flogging drugs when I was a lad.
It was greebo`s and skin heads who flogged stuff at parties and nightclubs.
Its what we do with the issues, not the person and their origins.....
 
Londons_Moggie said:
@rob_fmttm Can you do something about this post as I'm not happy at being called a racist for no reason. It needs removing
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The inference from your post focuses on the nationality and race of these "drug gangs".
If thats not what you meant then I apologise, burt you need to understand how it looks.
Its a narrative always used by the likes of the racist right to set their agenda.
Im not acusing you of being a racist, but what your saying easily fits that narrative.
 
r00fie1 said:
Its the fact you use race and nationality to fuel your "concern" - classic.
No race - baiting here.
My narrative is that "drugs" use is a major issue - nothing to do with race or colour of skin or nationality.

Its the laws in this country and the ideology of "Drugs Tzar" and "War on drugs" which causes the issues.
Decriminalising drugs like Canabbis - selling it on licensed premises, would destroy part of the illicit drugs market overnight.
Enabling access to clean kit and heroin substitutes would reduce the risk of shared needles and infections.

Illegalisation of "legal highs" has increased the drug "problem" across the country - with people making a fortune out of street drugs [MDMA] filled with all kinds of rubbish.

Taking back control from "drugs gangs" begins with a complete reorientation of UK Policy towards the use of illicit substances.

More people die each year from Alcohol - related deseases than from the use of heroin - but Alcohol is big business and legal.
The social fall - out from alcohol includes domestic violence, mental health issues, including dependency and many other serious issues.
I`ve never seen anyone in A&E on Friday night covered in blood from fighting because they had too many spliffs?!

This country`s policy regards drug and substance use is the root of the problem.
In the 60s LSD was a big issue, then amphetamines, etc, etc.

Whats happening today is nothing new.
It was white hippies flogging drugs when I was a lad.
It was greebo`s and skin heads who flogged stuff at parties and nightclubs.
Its what we do with the issues, not the person and their origins.....
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My concern is not fuelled by their nationality. I called them foreign drug gangs as that is what they are. I could have typed Kurdish and Albanian drug gangs but that would take more time.

I really can't stress to you enough your need to remove your quote calling me a racist. Remove it
 
r00fie1 said:
The inference from your post focuses on the nationality and race of these "drug gangs".
If thats not what you meant then I apologise, burt you need to understand how it looks.
Its a narrative always used by the likes of the racist right to set their agenda.
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It only looks that way to someone obsessed with race which I am not. You clearly are. Now remove your post as I have asked you politely on a number of occasions
 
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