Hands Up - Who backed Boris Johnson?

[HarryVegas]

Having had my say earlier in the thread, I agree with a previous poster in that we need now to look forward, not back. What's done is done. We on the left now need to focus on how to remove these dishonest, entitled ****s from office and expose them for what they always were. Our area needs real investment, not empty words and false promises.

 

[LaPennaBianca]

Didnt get chance to vote last time around but worth remembering he isn’t actually a Teesside MP so I would imagine most FMTTM chaps and chapesses didnt get the option to vote for him either. I understand the posters point however and yes he’s proven himself to be a disastrous liability. But wrongly or rightly he will be remembered and he had respect on the international stage. Even in Europe, where they were obliged to dislike him for obvious reasons. The partizan left who make up the majority of this board won’t like to hear it however but Jeremy wasnt the answer then and Sir Keir isnt the answer now. And thus for middle of the road, neither blue nor red by birth, voters like myself, it remains a coin flip and I wait to be convinced where my next vote will go. Im only certain that it will be policy that will swing it, not some knowsbetterthanme reminding me where i come from. In summary, if Sunak, Truss or Mordaunt take the leadership, Labour better have a proper rethink or the moment may pass them by. A bold move like convincing Andy Burnham to step back in may save the day but that seems way off at the moment

Truss

Thought you were being serious til you mentioned her

 

[jam69]

Not a ground breaking policy but a step in the right direction.

Sir Keir Starmer vows to end charitable status for private schools

The Labour leader reaffirmed plans to remove VAT exemption on private school fees.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[boroboy6872]

And there I was thinking only 1 poster on this board voted Conservative last time out.

 

[gizasqueezemister]

Truss

Thought you were being serious til you mentioned her

Totally get what you’re saying. She would be a total nightmare but like or loathe even Truss has more presence on the international stage than Sir Keir. Good policy on private schools, but he needs more, particularly on foreign policy. Now Brexit is here he would have to lead Great Britain not little England. I would love to see him have a go at the job to see if I’m wrong because I’m far from convinced at the moment.

 

[WelshBoro]

I voted Conservative, Labor run Wales and the NHS and schooling system are a mess and fall well behind the other nations. Some things are better (like free prescription's) but they tend to be small time things rather than the bigger picture. The grass isn't alway greener.

 

[Frozen Horse]

but like or loathe even Truss has more presence on the international stage than Sir Keir.

Isn't that a fundamental difference between being in government and opposition, rather than any comment on individuals though?

An opposition leader has no real relevance to the rest of the world until he achieves power.

 

[Ziggy]

The force of the Stockholm syndrome is strong among some herein.

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

I could never vote Tory.

If the moment came where I thought I could not in good faith vote for Labour, I simply wouldn't vote, or at least scribble across the ballot paper.

The Conservatives have been in power my whole adult life, I cannot wait for that to change.

 

[newyddion]

Have to say Newy, that line about Corbyn looking scruffy maybe held some weight in the 2017 election vs Teresa May. Definitely wasn't the case in 2019 though. Boris is the far scruffier looking politician out of the two of them. Always looks like he's been dragged through a hedge backwards.

Which of these is meant to be the scruffy one again? Look at the state of Boris's lid...

I was thinking more the MSM media portrayal that was easily lapped up and not applied to de Pfeffel

 

[festas_shin]

I voted for the Conservative Party (no where on the ballot had Boris Johnsons name on it) mainly for 2 reasons.
After nearly 50 years of voting in elections I realised that Labour simply ignored our area because they thought it could guarantee they would get our votes without doing anything to help our area. A realisation that seems to have come to millions of voters in the North.
The 2nd reason being I could not stand the thought that Jeremy Corbyn could become PM of this country ( thankfully the Labour Party came to the same conclusion).
I always thought it would be a one off vote and I would go back to Labour. I now realise that if Labour were to win power and ignore our area I would do it again.
You might find it easy to mock but not as easy as it would be for me to mock someone who would vote for a party no matter what they did just because you always do.

in my lifetime (nearly 58 years) the Tories have been in power for 39 years of them - so who do you think has actually neglected the north east during this time? and slashed the funding to the local councils which were predominantly labour controlled to ensure the further erosion of the north easts public services in greater proportion than reductions to the southern tory controlled councils?

 

[SmogonOuseburn]

Corbyn was as responsible for Brexit and therefore Johnson as anyone, by refusing to join Cameron in opposing leaving Europe.

 

[Unravel_Morrison]

Corbyn was as responsible for Brexit and therefore Johnson as anyone, by refusing to join Cameron in opposing leaving Europe.

He wasn't.

If that was the case similar numbers (%) of Labour voters would've voted Leave as the Tories and they didn't.

 

[Frozen Horse]

Corbyn was as responsible for Brexit and therefore Johnson as anyone, by refusing to join Cameron in opposing leaving Europe.

Surely Johnson is more responsible for Johnson?

 

[SmogonOuseburn]

He wasn't.

If that was the case similar numbers (%) of Labour voters would've voted Leave as the Tories and they didn't.

The final result was so close, that the effect on Labour votes by Corbyn’s antipathy to Europe clearly tipped the balance,

 

[Unravel_Morrison]

The final result was so close, that the effect on Labour votes by Corbyn’s antipathy to Europe clearly tipped the balance,

So, the 35% of Labour voters choosing to vote Leave had the same effect as the 61% of Conservatives?

 

[Keelo]

Truss as education secretary........This lot have had some belters as "Education Secretary"

 

[SmogonOuseburn]

So, the 35% of Labour voters choosing to vote Leave had the same effect as the 61% of Conservatives?

Of course not. But if only 25% or 30% of Labour voters had voted Leave then I believe that we would not now be in the mess that we are in.

 

[SuperStu]

Corbyn was as responsible for Brexit and therefore Johnson as anyone, by refusing to join Cameron in opposing leaving Europe.

What are you on about? Corbyn campaigned for remain. He did more campaign events than any other MP.

This is the problem our politics has in this country. The level of apathy among the electorate and the goldfish style memory just leaves people making up their own little stories of what happened when.

 

[newyddion]

What are you on about? Corbyn campaigned for remain. He did more campaign events than any other MP.

This is the problem our politics has in this country. The level of apathy among the electorate and the goldfish style memory just leaves people making up their own little stories of what happened when.

Do you remember Corbyn campaigning? Felt very much like he was just going through the motions. When it came to the 2019 election was he campaigning for it then?

I thought the right thing to do would have been for all of Labour to get fully behind a soft brexit.