Home alarm system

Drobbo1980

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I am looking at updating my old wired alarm system to a wireless one. I have got Verisure ringing me back this afternoon. Has anyone had any dealings with these ?

I am just wanting the basics motion sensors, door contacts and be able to monitor on my phone.

Also considering other systems, what have you got and are you happy with it.

Budget is around 250

TIA
 
I always think firms that go big on advertising are going to be expensive for what they provide. We are about a month behind you in that we are getting some work done and at same time going to go smart wireless and get the wired system out. The electrician reckoned if you have any common sense you could buy your own and put sensors where you want them And get everything linked to your phone, like the ring doorbell. Will speak to him again when he starts the work.
 
I looked at Verisure, they were knocking on our door constantly when we first moved in. Doing research online says there is no noticeable difference in terms of crime statistics for any alarm system (including monitored). Evidence of this is how many times you see footage of people having their houses robbed on their own security systems. Doesn't really reduce your home insurance either and leaves you open to having your claim refused if you haven't set it when you're in bed etc.

All the systems seem very expensive over the long run and don't offer any protection over a dummy camera and a sign. They includes the DIY options. There's a hefty subscription price for a Ring system if you have more than just the doorbell.
 
We've had the Ring alarm in for a few years now, it's inexpensive and does the job really well. You can add additional sensors cheaply and you put them where you want them.

Verisure is much, much more expensive. As far as I can see they're trading on slick advertising and don't offer anything you can't get from a much cheaper system.
 
Pyronix is a good system. £30 per year subscription so that its linked to your phone. If you dontbpay the subscription you can use it as a conventional alarm.
 
Just looked at the Ring alarm system, this one seems to be much better in quality and with the option to buy further sensors etc. Also it is around the same price and subscription is a third of the cost.

Thank you for your replies
 
Please be aware that there's a current trend of using WiFi jammers to block ring cameras and other devices that rely on WiFi.

Cars are being stolen from drives and there is no recording of the event taking place.

I personally would stick with the wired option linked directly to a dvr recording box.
 
Please be aware that there's a current trend of using WiFi jammers to block ring cameras and other devices that rely on WiFi.

Cars are being stolen from drives and there is no recording of the event taking place.

I personally would stick with the wired option linked directly to a dvr recording box.
Any link to figures on this? I keep seeing people saying it's happening all over but when I Google it comes up with isolated incidents.

Seems like it would be a small subset of car thieves that would know how to use a deauth device and majority of car thieves would probably just go for lower hanging fruit than carrying around such a device

Imagine majority of people have security cameras and alarms as a visual deterrent anyway. No-one cares if a house alarm is going off somewhere, it's practically pointless as they're just annoying and no one calls the police. Having footage of someone shellacking stuff can be useful but once stuff is gone it's pretty much gone so if they're going to break in anyway the footage doesn't really help.

If there are wired ones anyway they can just mask up and use the old "spray paint on an extendable pole" trick and any wired system is out of action as well. If they're gonna get you, they're gonna get you.
 
Any link to figures on this? I keep seeing people saying it's happening all over but when I Google it comes up with isolated incidents.

Seems like it would be a small subset of car thieves that would know how to use a deauth device and majority of car thieves would probably just go for lower hanging fruit than carrying around such a device

Imagine majority of people have security cameras and alarms as a visual deterrent anyway. No-one cares if a house alarm is going off somewhere, it's practically pointless as they're just annoying and no one calls the police. Having footage of someone shellacking stuff can be useful but once stuff is gone it's pretty much gone so if they're going to break in anyway the footage doesn't really help.

If there are wired ones anyway they can just mask up and use the old "spray paint on an extendable pole" trick and any wired system is out of action as well. If they're gonna get you, they're gonna get you.
Yup, exactly this.

Most thieves are probably druggies or opportunists, not exactly pro's who can buy or use jamming kit.

If a pro wants to take your stuff, then they will, but even they would go for easier targets, so I suppose any deterrents will basically help you by making the thief go and rob someone else's gear, someones gear is still getting robbed though.
 
It's an interesting and worrying topic this.

If everyone had alarms, and cameras, then the number of burglaries probably wouldn't go down, it would just set the bar higher for home security (expense), which would basically just force the buggers to take more risk (which they would, as they see this "line of work" as their only option).

Nobody cares about alarms or cameras, and you've got zero chance of the police turning up as something is ongoing, or having the resources to be able to do something about it after the event. People in the USA still get robbed, and burglars are well aware that homeowners are likely to have guns, but it doesn't scare them, or not enough to not do it anyway.

Best chance would be making the doors and windows as secure as possible, but the cost outlay on this is probably not worth the risk reduction (especially if everything is insured/ replaceable), and they will still get in if they want to, it just might take them 20 seconds longer. Or they don't get in, and now you have to replace your £2,000 back door.

Neighbourhood watch schemes will work, to some degree, but realistically, even if someone sees a burglary ongoing, what are they going to do? Ring the police at best? The chance of someone going over and taking matters in their own hands, to protect your stuff is slim, and they are not likely to increase their own risk.

Sad state of affairs, but that's what happens with a lack of police and a weak justice system.
 
Best cameras for inside the home are the ones that don't stand out. You can get cameras that are disguised in just about anything these days, clocks, pens, air con units, smoke alarms etc…

 
Best cameras for inside the home are the ones that don't stand out. You can get cameras that are disguised in just about anything these days, clocks, pens, air con units, smoke alarms etc…

Night vision image equality on a decent sized ccd is bad enough, imagine these will be like an early
00's webcam.
 
Best cameras for inside the home are the ones that don't stand out. You can get cameras that are disguised in just about anything these days, clocks, pens, air con units, smoke alarms etc…

Surely though you want the burglars to know you have a camera as that is the potential deterrent?

You could capture them on camera stealing all your stuff but even if police had the video they are not going to put any work into identifying who it was or getting your stuff back, you'll still just get a ref number for your insurance claim.

Alarms and cameras just seem a bit pointless to me unless you want the camera to check on your pets or something.
 
No, can get them in full HD 1080p
You can get anything in full hd 1080p, it won't help the night vision quality. Full size cameras struggle with it alert from a few, anything that size has no chance

Below image taken from a review of one that is the size of a GoPro so anything hidden in a pen or smoke alarm will be worse due to smaller sensor size so less scope for night vision improvements

Probably fine if they put the lights on full for you though.

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