In praise of EV'S

Tom_Boro said:
You've accused a lot of people in this thread of lying.
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Or pointed out a lot of people are lying. But Gent, yes he lied about me personally so that was a bad one.

I guess the others are just either misguided or using prejudice and emotive language.
 
SmallTown said:
Or pointed out a lot of people are lying. But Gent, yes he lied about me personally so that was a bad one.

I guess the others are just either misguided or using prejudice and emotive language.
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There's been many similar threads where you categorically dismiss concerns that people may have about buying an EV. It's the same with the other guy. EVs are unsuitable for many people for many reasons. For those looking at proper ownership of a vehicle to keep long term, they are not an attractive proposition. And just how good for the environment they currently are is still up for debate.
 
JustTheGent said:
There's been many similar threads where you categorically dismiss concerns that people may have about buying an EV. It's the same with the other guy. EVs are unsuitable for many people for many reasons. For those looking at proper ownership of a vehicle to keep long term, they are not an attractive proposition. And just how good for the environment they currently are is still up for debate.
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The exorbitant cost of renting/leasing far outweigh any savings on fuel costs....
 
JustTheGent said:
There's been many similar threads where you categorically dismiss concerns that people may have about buying an EV. It's the same with the other guy. EVs are unsuitable for many people for many reasons. For those looking at proper ownership of a vehicle to keep long term, they are not an attractive proposition. And just how good for the environment they currently are is still up for debate.
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Oh,and here's me thinking you were going to retract the lie you made about me earlier on.

Shame
 
SmallTown said:
They are? So its odd thinking you'd pay for something that is free
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Why are you being so sarky?
He was asking a question.
I don't have an EV so I am also unsure how or when you pay for top-ups. Though I have seen supermarkets advertising them for free .
For someone claiming to be trying to educate us you don't seem to like answering genuine questions.
 
Markburke said:
When you charge an EV you also don’t have to go into the petrol station shop to pay (waiting behind 15 people with baskets full of shopping). It all happens by magic at home whilst you have your feet up, drinking a riggwelter next to the fire.
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Sadly this argument was obsolete before EVs were around due to pay at pump.
 
The whole point is that some people are ready adopters of new technology and some aren't. Personally I'm not yet convinced that EVs are the only term solution, and so I bought a 4year old petrol earlier this year.
 
Tom_Boro said:
Are charging points free to use? Or do you pay for the electricity in shop?
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There was an article online recently by a motoring journalist who'd been invited to Portugal to drive the Porsche Taycan. He loved it, but then he stopped at a services and tested the fast charging. Ultimately only 40% of his bill for charging was for electricity (fuel) the rest was service charges. He calculated that it would have been cheaper for him to do his journey in a diesel.
 
SmallTown said:
This is patently untrue. EV are more expensive than their ICE equivalents but not by much anymore. They used to be, yes. But not in 2021
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Is this because EVs are more expensive to produce or because the manufacturers have put their eggs in one basket and now have to convince everyone this is the correct decision by increasing the price of ICE cars disproportionately to make EVs seem a reasonable buy.
 
Rofesleg said:
Why are you being so sarky?
He was asking a question.
I don't have an EV so I am also unsure how or when you pay for top-ups. Though I have seen supermarkets advertising them for free .
For someone claiming to be trying to educate us you don't seem to like answering genuine questions.
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OK: some supermarkets give you charging for free. Usually, though, we need to pay through an app or a card. Companies like instavolt are better and you can pay at the charger using your card. IMHO that should be the future, rather than having an app. Although if companies could do what tesla do, where you just connect and get billed automatically that would be the best
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
There was an article online recently by a motoring journalist who'd been invited to Portugal to drive the Porsche Taycan. He loved it, but then he stopped at a services and tested the fast charging. Ultimately only 40% of his bill for charging was for electricity (fuel) the rest was service charges. He calculated that it would have been cheaper for him to do his journey in a diesel.
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Can you link to the article. it sounds really incorrect this. What "services" were being charged for? Was this like the BBC fraud thing where they drove from Lands end to john o groat and deliberately picked the most expensive chargers and routes?

RedAsABeetroot said:
Is this because EVs are more expensive to produce or because the manufacturers have put their eggs in one basket and now have to convince everyone this is the correct decision by increasing the price of ICE cars disproportionately to make EVs seem a reasonable buy.
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Certainly not the latter. Japanese car makers, for example, are running a government funded anti EV campaign. I believe older motor manufacturers find EV more expensive to produce because they are trying to make them on their old ICE lines. Rather than building new lines for them
 
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