ITV confirmation Number Ten partied whilst the rest of us locked down.

The_Tiler

Active member
When my mum died last year and only 30 people could go to her funeral, my first grandchild was born but my son could only be there for the actual birth and we were not allowed to visit at all, I decided to live my life how I wanted.

Im so glad I didn't sit at home, terrified, with a mask on because the government told me to.
 

zorro_mfc

Well-known member
Its a bit more sophisticated than just shouting fake news at the media but as far as dishonesty goes its as bad as anything in America under Trump.

I have to sometimes remind myself that this is real life and not a bunch of scenes from a sketch show. In a few years when all these politicians are gone this will make one of the most entertaining series' we've ever seen.
We’re not even close to trumpian levels as Hancock would still be here under trump.

this sums up the trump era.

 

GazC_MFC

Well-known member
When my mum died last year and only 30 people could go to her funeral, my first grandchild was born but my son could only be there for the actual birth and we were not allowed to visit at all, I decided to live my life how I wanted.

Im so glad I didn't sit at home, terrified, with a mask on because the government told me to.
Oh look at me I didn’t wear a mask, because I only care about myself
 

Laughing

Well-known member
I'm not going for one upsmanship, I'm simply showing that your view was myopic and incomplete. I'm not arguing that lockdown has been crap for many people, but the opposite of lockdown at that time was masses more deaths with an overwhlemed health service, that can't be ignored.
Mart I haven't once argued that lockdowns shouldn't have happened, I have said I am a supporter of them. What I have said, repeatedly, is I question the when and whom.

Once again, not a single preventative measure was put in place before the first lockdown. No working from home, no mask mandate, no social distancing. After the first kickdown masks were still not mandated.

Where would we have been if we had used every tool at our disposal and lockdowns as a last resort, at the right time and for the right places and for the right amount of time.

I don't know and neither does anybody else. What we do know is that countries who used other measures as their preference and lockdowns for shorter times fared better than the uk. They had less covid deaths and orders of magnitude less excess deaths.

They tested less and spent less money on both testing and trace applications.

Their approach was sensible, measured and coherent. Ours was not. To claim that without lockdowns we would have suffered more ignores the other responses that were available to us.

I agree that if you do absolutely nothing then a severe lockdown is all you are left with. If you wait too long to lockdown the lockdown last longer. This is true. It didn't have to be. This is my point.

On the subject of children missing school, this is one example of crap governance and I do not in any way accept the charectarization that it was learning from home for a couple of months. I know that wasn't your words, but card cheats, I am just addressing his comments here also. I personally know of extreme suffering from children in my family.

I know you shouldn't personalise this, it muddies the waters and leads to a comparison of suffering which we absolutely shouldn't do.

I will never agree with the way lockdowns were imposed on us. They became necessary because the government did nothing to ameliorate the situation.

Let's leave this as an agreement to disagree and get back to bashing Johnson and his murderous governance.
 

The_Tiler

Active member
Oh look at me I didn’t wear a mask, because I only care about myself
Nope. I missed out on a year of my, and my familys life because of the restrictions, refuse to do it again. Life is way too short.

You should try it, turn off your TV and embrace life. Spend less time on social media.
 

Uwefuchs

Well-known member
It's not the way we should do politics but it would be great to see starmer dragged out of the house screaming "you ****ed with the wrong marine!"

I'm obviously half joking but he needs to really make a statement, asking politely for an apology isn't enough.

The perception that he's mister anonymous can be changed in moments like this.
 
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