Jorgen Strand Larsen

JM14 said:
You have just described Pulis
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I suggest you look at their respect careers in the english game, Pulis's record is far better. I agree his football is turgid, but it does get results. Strachans football is turgid and doesn't get results...pretty similar to Warnock but usually at a higher level Warnocks was utterly basic, no real plan B or complex tactics, just get the ball forward early and press high. Pulis had a bit more tactically about him, certainly defensively which is why Warnock always got sacked and relegated in the top flight, whereas Pulis stayed up 9 times out of 10, in fact was he ever relegated? Strachan stayed a couple of times with Cov then got them relegated. He had a poor record.

As for their time with us Strachan 28% win rate, just over 1 point a match, 52 points in 46 matches. Pulis 44% win rate, 127 points in 80 games, a little over 1.5 points per game. It's incomparable.
 
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BoroMart said:
I suggest you look at their respect careers in the english game, Pulis's record is far better. I agree his football is turgid, but it does get results. Strachans football is turgid and doesn't get results...pretty similar to Warnock but usually at a higher level Warnocks was utterly basic, no real plan B or complex tactics, just get the ball forward early and press high. Pulis had a bit more tactically about him, certainly defensively which is why Warnock always got sacked and relegated in the top flight, whereas Pulis stayed up 9 times out of 10
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pulis was the biggest **** to ever manage Boro.
A liar, a crook and a football Luddite.
 
indeedido said:
pulis was the biggest **** to ever manage Boro.
A liar, a crook and a football Luddite.
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Well that's an opinion, and I'm not a fan of Pulis, but if it's true that Monk getting us to buy Fletcher for 7m when he knew he had agreed a deal for 2m 6 months earlier, and doing it through his agent friend, would make him worse in my books.

Then there is the Warnock making players pay him to get picked, which has been claimed by players from several of his previous clubs, if true, then again that would put him in that same bracket.

I'm not saying this in defence of Pulis, his football was awful, although we have to be honest and see that the results were much better than those others. Even if it was boring anti-football. I wouldn't say he was a luddite either, I'd say his philosphy on football was very very different to what most fans want.
 
Pulis was about getting results - he took us to the play offs when it looked like we were not going to in 2018.

A strange decision to sell Bamford cost us the play offs in 2019 imo and some financial cheating by Derby C.

I agree it was poor entertainment when he managed us, little flair and lots of long throws.
 
Redwurzel said:
Pulis was about getting results - he took us to the play offs when it looked like we were not going to in 2018.

A strange decision to sell Bamford cost us the play offs in 2019 imo and some financial cheating by Derby C.

I agree it was poor entertainment when he managed us, little flair and lots of long throws.
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He was a ****.
 
Redwurzel said:
I agree it was poor entertainment when he managed us, little flair and lots of long throws.
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It's definitely not what I like to watch, or how I coach. But it's f$%(*n horrible to play against teams like that. Every time you lose the ball you know you're going to have to compete.

The only simmer of light was that 6 month cameo from Traore, it's unbelievable that Pulis was the first manager to trust him, he probably saw his biceps and pecs and thought right, you'll do me and didn't even realise he was a silky pacey winger.
 
BoroMart said:
Then there is the Warnock making players pay him to get picked, which has been claimed by players from several of his previous clubs, if true, then again that would put him in that same bracket.
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Was told that story about 10 years before it ever broke in the press. And lots of others about him. Came from when he was with Sheff U.
 
BoroMad87 said:
Whilst I understand your frustration if you are a fan you stick with the team through the good and the bad, there have been worse times in boros history than pulis of that am sure.
To give up a season ticket is a bit over the top, whether you agree with an appointment or player or not on match day you turn up and support your team, cause thats what being a fan is all about, the ups and downs, just imagine steve gibson oes reas this board and sees the way some fans react to every little thing, Imagine he give up being a fan/supporter and putting his money into the club.
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It's not 'over the top' to decide that I simply wasn't enjoying ot anymore and your post comes across as more than a little condescending, with respect.

Your post seems to suggest it was petulance that drove my decision, but I simply didn't enjoy it enough anymore.

Football generally has lost its soul and Boro are part of that fabric, its over hyped, over saturated and just not as honest as it once was.

Maybe it's an age thing, but I've seen the ups and downs over the years and it just isn't as important to me as it once was - maybe age does provide a little more perspective.
 
This thread reminds me of sharks in a feeding frenzy looking for scraps. It's sad that some people will come up with utter tosh to be involved in a pointless topic.
 
Redwurzel said:
Pulis was about getting results - he took us to the play offs when it looked like we were not going to in 2018.

A strange decision to sell Bamford cost us the play offs in 2019 imo and some financial cheating by Derby C.

I agree it was poor entertainment when he managed us, little flair and lots of long throws.
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Pulis’s record with us was far more impressive than Strachan’s. Still not sure how we managed to blow the play offs in his second season. Strachan had been deluded by his spell with Celtic, might have been ok if he had come to us after Southampton. Worst two appointments for me though will always be Southgate and Woodgate, given
jobs because the Chairman saw their potential!
 
BoroMart said:
I suggest you look at their respect careers in the english game, Pulis's record is far better. I agree his football is turgid, but it does get results. Strachans football is turgid and doesn't get results...pretty similar to Warnock but usually at a higher level Warnocks was utterly basic, no real plan B or complex tactics, just get the ball forward early and press high. Pulis had a bit more tactically about him, certainly defensively which is why Warnock always got sacked and relegated in the top flight, whereas Pulis stayed up 9 times out of 10, in fact was he ever relegated? Strachan stayed a couple of times with Cov then got them relegated. He had a poor record.

As for their time with us Strachan 28% win rate, just over 1 point a match, 52 points in 46 matches. Pulis 44% win rate, 127 points in 80 games, a little over 1.5 points per game. It's incomparable.
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Pulis had a significantly better side though. He also set the club back years, he was in charge when we sold our best players for next to nothing and replaced them with rubbish which we significantly overpaid for and we’re stuck with for years
Same way he ruined WBA
 
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