Planned riot in Middlesborough last weekend.

Boro_Madrid said:
Great post this, so incredibly accurate.

This, unfortunately, has been a long time coming.
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I read this diagnosis of Britain back in 2015 around the time of the Brexit referendum, though. Not saying that at least some of it isn't accurate, but this is openly racist thuggery, not people using their democratic right to vote for conmen like Farage and Johnson. Times are tough in all of the towns where these acts have happened but there's absolutely no excuse for what we've been seeing.
 
Brick_Tamland said:
I read this diagnosis of Britain back in 2015 around the time of the Brexit referendum, though. Not saying that at least some of it isn't accurate, but this is openly racist thuggery, not people using their democratic right to vote for conmen like Farage and Johnson. Times are tough in all of the towns where these acts have happened but there's absolutely no excuse for what we've been seeing.
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We all live in these areas but we don’t all resort to the violence and thuggery that has occurred today. We role up our sleeves and make the best of what we have without impacting on others.
They on the other hand prefer to wreck the lives of hard working people , they don’t know who the cars they are wrecking belong ton nor do they know who lives in the homes they are targeting.Their fathers could have done us all a favour and wiped their d!cks on the curtains.
 
RavsFan said:
This is a clear symptom of the breakdown in our society that has been coming. Forget the supposed immigration rhetoric, thats the wrong label for whats really going on, it isn’t all just the far right either, its peoples hope that has been lost, buried for good. Burning cars, destruction of property and looting of shops is a mere symbol of what we have sown politically as a nation, what do many people have in their lives, no jobs, zero hours at a push, no money, poor housing, education systems that fail the disinterested, poor parenting, kids allowed to run riot, out of sight out of mind.

Social housing eroded for decades encouraged by capitalist governments and their avarice, slum landlords, selling off the nations infrastructure for a fast buck, ordinary working peoples greed to get cheap shares for a fast buck to pay for a trip to Benidorm. The reliance on foodbanks and a benefit system that a few even seem to aspire to as they have never known anything else. Kids of primary school age even carrying knives, prisons full, the Police too few to cope.

For years, no, generations, whole families and areas across the UK have been ignored, failed and left to rot by political parties of all colours, politicians don’t care because they know they wont vote as they are disenfranchised while people struggle for food, housing and now access to health. Politicians should be the ones ashamed, but so should people like me, the general electorate, for doing nothing, most people have fiddled while Britains has burned, the internet fuels lies and allows virtually unpunished freedom to foreign state actors to sow division and misappropriate blame. The division between the haves and have nots is ignored by the majority of the haves, so long as people buy their nice house, nice car, nice holidays and nights out they could not give a fig about the people on nearby estates whose kids are kicked out and sometimes don’t come home till 4 in the morning, never go to school, get gifts off drug dealers in return for spotting and carrying.

We have parts of the UK that the police are reluctant to enter, their are parts of towns and cities up and down the country I will not dare to go, where will it all end, it feels so very different to riots that blew up in the past, its no wonder those that can are leaving the country. It will all be music to Mr Putin though, we’d be an easy state to take over right now if he wasn’t occupied elsewhere.

Rant over, I’m off to find my inner peace, I just can’t seem to find it today.
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I'm now a fan of @RavsFan

Well said RF 👏

It seems you have already found your inner peace. Let's hope the rest of the world can achieve it.

I think we may be witnessing WWIII. The 4th Riech is stealthly creeping across the globe and we've wandered in blindly.
 
dribble said:
We all live in these areas but we don’t all resort to the violence and thuggery that has occurred today. We role up our sleeves and make the best of what we have without impacting on others.
They on the other hand prefer to wreck the lives of hard working people , they don’t know who the cars they are wrecking belong ton nor do they know who lives in the homes they are targeting.Their fathers could have done us all a favour and wiped their d!cks on the curtains.
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I dont disagree, but what has been the driver of this difference in behaviour though in your opinion? Why do we have this violent, thuggish, selfish, racist underbelly that just thinks that they can literally do whatever they want to whoever they want?

Genuine question by the way, not trying to stir anything up.
 
Brick_Tamland said:
I read this diagnosis of Britain back in 2015 around the time of the Brexit referendum, though. Not saying that at least some of it isn't accurate, but this is openly racist thuggery, not people using their democratic right to vote for conmen like Farage and Johnson. Times are tough in all of the towns where these acts have happened but there's absolutely no excuse for what we've been seeing.
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The right love to call everyone snowflakes etc. yet are the first one to use the Victim card when they get called out and they will again when they hopefully get made examples out of in the coming months in the courts. “Why always me” etc.

This has been a slow drip feed for a number of years in my eyes.

When I go back to my teen years and early 20’s I don’t ever recall coming across many people who had overtly racist views. Perhaps it was my social circles, but I also think the topic generally wasn’t discussed openly by people who had those feelings.

Brexit undoubtedly start to change the landscape. Boris Johnson making the letterbox joke etc. started to embolden people.

One example that always sticks in my mind is when BoJo was starting to get into mainstream politics.

I used to play in the pool leagues, and one of the lads in my team who I got on with but he wasn’t the sharpest tool In the shed, raised the letterbox comment and started laughing about it. “Finally, a politician that tells it like is” or words to that affect. That was just the start if further comments.

I called him out on it immediately. His brother chipped in too and it got a bit ugly. I played my game, left and never played for the team again as I didn’t want to associate with people who were quite clearly racists. Something that never even occurred to me before that night.

Like has already been discussed above, the political decisions and media in this country has added a lot of fuel to that fire and emboldened people even more over time.

I don’t even think immigration was even a high priority in this country until the likes of Fargae etc. started getting mainstream coverage prior to the referendum.

I think back to London 2012 and The Olympics (ironically now) and what an amazing event that was. I think it celebrated a lot of good things about our Nation and people.

Fast forward 12 years and how far we have fallen. A lot of damage has been done and I don’t know how you undo it. Not helped by The Tories moving further to the right in the latter part of their tenure. The likes of Patel and Braverman have a lot to answer for too.

These types of domestic issues will only make things tougher for the new government.

I am seeing a lot of similar comments on Facebook about this all being “On Starmers Hands” - potentially bots as well. But a strange take considering he’s been PM for all of two minutes.
 
Brick_Tamland said:
I read this diagnosis of Britain back in 2015 around the time of the Brexit referendum, though. Not saying that at least some of it isn't accurate, but this is openly racist thuggery, not people using their democratic right to vote for conmen like Farage and Johnson. Times are tough in all of the towns where these acts have happened but there's absolutely no excuse for what we've been seeing.
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It goes wayback further than brexit. Brexit was a protest vote in places like Hartlepool a last chance to change their shít lot. A disastrous wrong choice but societal breakdown goes way back to thatcher years. Communities were abandoned look at places like horden recently named poorest place in Durham abandoned after pit closure people had absolutely nothing then and still dont today, what did new Labour and blair do whos constituency was 14 miles away. Absolutely fook all no regional policy to help, no interventions to get people back on their feet. Its the same all over Northern towns. Neoliberal polices have helped absolutely no one but the rich. Farage and his race baiters are puppets for the rich instigating hate as a diversionary smoke screen whilst they pick your pocket. Both the tories and new Labour have sucked up to the rich and shat on the weakest.
If we want change, a country full of good citizens who care for others tolerate different races and beliefs, contribute positively to society then governments need to treat all its people with decency and dignity.
 
I’m lost for words really after today.

My sister who lives near Ayresome Park Road came to meet me in Saltburn today with her daughter for my birthday. Drove her home as no way did I want her trying to make her way back just them two. The look on my niece’s face as she saw and heard what was happening throughout the day made me so angry.
 
Boro_Madrid said:
I dont disagree, but what has been the driver of this difference in behaviour though in your opinion? Why do we have this violent, thuggish, selfish, racist underbelly that just thinks that they can literally do whatever they want to whoever they want?

Genuine question by the way, not trying to stir anything up.
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Pure selfish ignorance, they know right from wrong and don’t give a ****. Lazy people ,lazy parents I come from a fairly large family , grew up on a council estate , we struggled at times like most but we had parents who worked their socks off to provide what they could for us. They instilled a sense of worth in us and we on the whole have responded to that guidance in how we live our lives but I have a sibling who decided that they would give up their jobs for a life on benefits once they became parents. They didn’t work until their youngest turned 20 . They passed on this work ethic to their offspring who are now in their 40’s but have not worked a month between them in their lives.
As I say lazy parenting and easy money for them, their offspring are now repeating the cycle, getting pregnant at a very young age and milking the system for everything they can.
It boiled my p!ss to think I was missing out on family occasions because I had to work ,to provide for my family,while they p!she’d it up over Christmas, Bank Holidays, Birthdays etc.
 
Scrug said:
Wow. Hope none of your kids are in that school.

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She works with the SEN children. Or I should say worked. She’ll be sacked soon.

The main racist on RR says he’s good mates with the family which will be a surprise to absolutely no-one.

(I’m going to give some credit to Riverside Rifle and Ayton Mews over there, they’ve been very vocal in calling out his overt and disgusting racism)
 
Glover_elbow said:
It goes wayback further than brexit. Brexit was a protest vote in places like Hartlepool a last chance to change their shít lot. A disastrous wrong choice but societal breakdown goes way back to thatcher years. Communities were abandoned look at places like horden recently named poorest place in Durham abandoned after pit closure people had absolutely nothing then and still dont today, what did new Labour and blair do whos constituency was 14 miles away. Absolutely fook all no regional policy to help, no interventions to get people back on their feet. Its the same all over Northern towns. Neoliberal polices have helped absolutely no one but the rich. Farage and his race baiters are puppets for the rich instigating hate as a diversionary smoke screen whilst they pick your pocket. Both the tories and new Labour have sucked up to the rich and shat on the weakest.
If we want change, a country full of good citizens who care for others tolerate different races and beliefs, contribute positively to society then governments need to treat all its people with decency and dignity.
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Nothing excuses what went on today.
 
I just want to forget about it now if possible and try to build bridges with the ethnic communities around Teesside, of which we have lived in harmony side by side for decades..I have Muslim friends from school who I still speak to and I'm just gutted and ashamed of my town, but tomorrow is another day and we need to let them know that 99% of us are with them and we will not let racists divide us...where there is evil, good will rise up against it.
 
sambaDTR said:
What a contrast on telly. Our home town being smashed up by thugs and, on another channel, people of all colours and creeds competing peacefully in the Olympic Games.
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What a contrast on Teesside an international community festival in the heart of one town people feeling they can destroy the heart of its neighbour the other side of the river.
But they won't succeed.
 
Just seen on the news that Brits are being advised to return home and leave the Lebanon for their safety, I wonder if their locals are now calling Beirut out as like downtown Middlesbrough/Rotherham/Liverpool/Belfast (insert the name of any former large industrial UK town or city abandoned by Westminster Palace) !!!

It really makes me sit back and think why are so many people across the world so hell bent on the destruction of the human race and why hate seems to lodge in peoples hearts and heads so readily. This hatred, It’s like a parasitoid with no cure. I am a non believer, but if there really was a god, he’d surely just gently nudge an asteroid Earths way and start again.
 
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