Oh I do not doubt your leanings. My point is that the absolute priority for anyone other than the deluded far right nut jobs must be to undermine this government and that has to include getting the message across to people that politicians are not "all the same" that what politicking KS may have done to gain the leadership of the Labour Party is in no way equivalent to the corruption and cronyism of the Tories and their lies.
Was there any need for that patronising last line? The absolute priority was the same in 2017 and 2019 but you 'centrist' lot refused to back Corbyn then, aided by a load of lies and smears from the press and backstabbing from within the party and now all of a sudden you lot expect me to back a lying turd like Starmer? I'd rather vote for a party with Wolfie Smith in charge. I'm still hoping that Nobby is going to stand as an Independent in my constituency. He's undecided at the moment but I can be very persuasive when I want to be. And he owes me more than a few favours. He gets a lot of stick on here but Nobby is always Nobby. I'd know exactly what I was getting if I voted for him.
I know you've stated in the past, that you wouldn't vote for a Labour Party led by Starmer, but how about framing it as voting for a party that has Zarah Sultana as an MP. I actually understand and even agree with a lot of what you say and this comes from someone who voted for Starmer in the leadership election. But and I can't make this point too strongly, the absolute priority of every Labour member and supporter must be to keep the Tories out at every election, but especially with this bunch of smirking, smug, contemptuous b******s. Every Labour supporter who doesn't do that means we have to convince one more ex Tory voter to change. I really do hope you consider this comrade and I use that word as a mark of affection.
Just cut inside and play a through ball instead.
Thank you for a reasoned and friendly response. I don't get that very often on politics threads. I'm not a Labour member any more. I jumped before I was pushed when Starmer was expelling loads of people that I know from the party for being left wing. I understand your position but I can't agree with it. Replacing one stinking turd with another slightly less smelly turd doesn't really appeal to me. And he's done everything that he can to ensure that people like me won't vote for him. He doesn't want us to, so I'm probably playing in to his hands. Me voting Labour with him in charge would be me saying that I agree with the huge shift to the right and I don't agree with that at all. This whole 'become The Tories to beat the Tories because winning is all that matters' strategy is something that I'll never buy in to. This is the bit where I remind myself never to post on political threads on here because it always ends badly. So I'll leave it at that.
I'm really right footed mate. More of a right sided centre back TBH. But not a very good one unfortunately.
Never stopped Pally. Reach for the stars dude
Genuinely sorry to hear that mate.
It was meant to be jocular and unifying but hey ho it seems the only humour you find funny is your own.
I have to say Muttley, that I hoped that was how you meant it, but I wasn't sure.
Don't go Bumface. Your views are as valid as anyone elses and I like to read what you say. Some people on here think that if a person has a different view to them they are wrong and have no right to disagree.
Sorry mate. Humour doesn't always come across through the written word. And you have spent half of the evening calling me a Tory shill so I was a bit peed off at you. I get defensive and a bit aggressive on these threads sometimes because I'm in the minority and often end up getting crap thrown at me from multiple posters. I don't want to fall out with you or anyone else over politics.
I'm not flouncing mate. I should just stay away from these politics threads. They bring out the worst in me.
Davy 6 posts despite joining nearly two years ago, I have heard if shy tories but that's taking it to the extreme
So your a humourless tory shill eh bumface?
Don't you start mate. I still have unfinished business with you as it is. You'd better not be mistreating that rabbit. I'm warning you. There will be consequences. My bum faced lads are just itching for a good scrap right now.So your a humourless tory shill eh bumface?