Possible bad news about SA variant

I've told you the thread has been deleted and I was getting it from about 20 other disgruntled individuals so all the abuse kind of merged into one so I can't say who was responsible for which
So basically you’ve come on this thread, specifically had a go at me making a ridiculous allegation and can’t even remember how I supposedly ‘abused’ you?

Give your head a shake pal.
 
So basically you’ve come on this thread, specifically had a go at me making a ridiculous allegation and can’t even remember how I supposedly ‘abused’ you?

Give your head a shake pal.
You've made a ridiculous allegation on here too. Accusing me of threatening to "give you a bat" :ROFLMAO:

Give your head a shake pal
 
You've made a ridiculous allegation on here too. Accusing me of threatening to "give you a bat" :ROFLMAO:

Give your head a shake pal
Do you always go trolling? You’re a particularly sad case, it’s no wonder so many have a go at you.

Obviously auditioning for the part of the board village idiot, and doing quite a good job so far.
 
Do you always go trolling? You’re a particularly sad case, it’s no wonder so many have a go at you.

Obviously auditioning for the part of the board village idiot, and doing quite a good job so far.
Go and enjoy the match and less of the personal insults
 
This is an excellent board, but people like you are the reason the last board went downhill. Plainly nothing better to do with your time but to troll.

The board would be better off without the likes of you, so welcome to my block list.
Sorry you feel that way
 
Just thinking about 'variants' and 'strains' (I'm not sure what the difference is tbh, if any).

Well anyway, I had the flu vaccine for the 1st time last week and had a bit of a chat with the nurse administering it to me. She explained that 'this year's' vaccine was protecting against the 4 main prevalent strains going about this year but next year's vaccine is likely to be different.

What I took out of that is that vaccine manufacturers are well on top of any changes to viruses and they can relatively easily 'tweak' the formula to address the changing status (y)
 
Even if this variant is less susceptible to the current vaccines (and that's not proven yet) the BioNTech chief scientist has said it's the work of only just a couple of days to adjust their vaccine for any new variant, should that be necessary.

That's the beauty of the new mRNA and viral vector vaccine technologies. They are very easily adjustable for a situation like this. They consist of an underlying vaccine "construct" which has at its core, a small snippet of genetic code that will induce the human body's own cells to create copies of the spike protein (which on its own, is totally innocuous, it's simply the mechanism that allows the virus to attach to human cells).

The immune system then recognises the spike protein particles as foreign and creates antibodies, T cells and B cells designed specifically to counter them, thereby protecting the vaccinated person against the SARS-CoV-2 virus that carries the same spike protein.

All they have to do is to make the same tiny changes to the genetic sequence at the heart of their vaccine construct that the variant has (and as I mentioned, that takes them literally only days to do) and they have a new vaccine specifically tailored for either this new mutation or any future variant that might require it.

According to the vaccine manufacturers, it would then take just a couple of weeks more to alter the manufacturing process and start producing the new variant vaccine in quantity.

But again, this is only if this variant (or any other future one) does reduce the efficacy of the current vaccines enough to require it and as yet, we don't know that they do.
 
So, out of the three vaccines currently approved for use in the UK, two have already said their vaccine is still effective against the SA variant.

Accordingly, I think the various contributors who seemed concerned at reports speculating that this variant might elude the current vaccines can take a good deal of comfort from that.

We haven't heard from the Oxford-AstraZeneca team yet but based on the example of the other two vaccines I would think there's a reasonable probability it will be effective also.
 
So, out of the three vaccines currently approved for use in the UK, two have already said their vaccine is still effective against the SA variant.

Accordingly, I think the various contributors who seemed concerned at reports speculating that this variant might elude the current vaccines can take a good deal of comfort from that.

We haven't heard from the Oxford-AstraZeneca team yet but based on the example of the other two vaccines I would think there's a reasonable probability it will be effective also.
Thought the other two were a similar type of vaccine but the Oxford-AstraZeneca on is different from them. Maybe best wait until information is released.
 
regardless of the efficacy of this claim, we should have shut the borders way back when. New Zealand did this and is virus free and people are living normal lives. We have a natural protection from foreign viruses, it's called being an island.
 
Ive completed my two weeks MIQ and now a “free man” here in NZ. The experience is best described as posh prison. Fabulous organisation, food was actually very good. Wifi was strong. Weird to be dropped off at Auckland airport, told I can remove my mask and from what I have seen so far live a normal a life as I can.

One rider. A case of the South African variant got out into the Northland community. Woman returning from UK tested negative twice in MIQ and was like me released. However two days later started feeling symptoms and she tested positive. Looks like she gor it in the Managed Isolation hotel from another returner. (Not the same hotel as me)

It seems she used the track and trace scanning religiously when out so they think they will be good to contain it quickly. Hope so anyway.

Anyway for an effective quarantine system to work back over there its going to take significant resources to set up the facilities. Isolation fees here a £1000 per stay. Unless exempt as I was.
 
Ive completed my two weeks MIQ and now a “free man” here in NZ. The experience is best described as posh prison. Fabulous organisation, food was actually very good. Wifi was strong. Weird to be dropped off at Auckland airport, told I can remove my mask and from what I have seen so far live a normal a life as I can.

One rider. A case of the South African variant got out into the Northland community. Woman returning from UK tested negative twice in MIQ and was like me released. However two days later started feeling symptoms and she tested positive. Looks like she gor it in the Managed Isolation hotel from another returner. (Not the same hotel as me)

It seems she used the track and trace scanning religiously when out so they think they will be good to contain it quickly. Hope so anyway.

Anyway for an effective quarantine system to work back over there its going to take significant resources to set up the facilities. Isolation fees here a £1000 per stay. Unless exempt as I was.
What's it like being in a 1st World Country?
Lovely place NZ.
 
Thought the other two were a similar type of vaccine but the Oxford-AstraZeneca on is different from them. Maybe best wait until information is released.
It has a different designation (viral vector as opposed to mRNA) but it works in an almost identical manner.

All three vaccines consist of a lipid membrane, within which is inserted a piece of genetic code with instructions to prompt the ribosomes inside a human cell to produce copies of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

The main difference is in the carrier used to transport the genetic instructions into the human cells.

The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines use a purely artificial lipid membrane designed in a lab whereas the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine uses the lipid membrane from a non-replicating adenovirus as the means of carrying the instructions into the body.

Once these different lipid membranes latch onto the human cells and deliver their genetic instructions, the process that then takes place, with the ribosomes reading the instructions and creating the spike proteins, is virtually identical no matter which one of the three vaccines you're talking about.

The human body's reaction to the presence of the coronavirus spike proteins created in this manner should be essentially identical as far as I can tell, whether the instructions to create the spike proteins were carried into the cell by an mRNA or viral vector vaccine.

If I can make an analogy, it's like getting the same model new phone delivered to your house either by a van driver or by a motorbike rider. It doesn't matter how the phone was delivered, it will still work the same once you start using it.
 
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