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boro_98

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Using a fair few assumptions and some very elementary maths, the likes of Man City and Newcastle (Using Aramco’s annual profit of £180bn) make the equivalent of Steve Gibson net worth (£270million) nearly every 12 hours. Makes me wonder why I’m so desperate to get promoted and if the Premier League is all that??

I understand we are not competing with these guys, but sometimes I feel the Championship is a far better spectacle.
 
It's dreadful, I don't even watch it anymore, it borders on not even being a competitive sport. I watch Boro and that's about it for me, I desperately hope we get promoted because it's what is best for the club and it's future.

I see the messages in group chats with my mates when City are beating someone 5 or 6-0, why would anyone want to watch that?
 
I have zero interest in it.
I obviously desperately want us to get promoted because that is the ultimate measure of success in our league this season, and I’ll celebrate it as such.
But I much prefer a more competitive league where the top 2 could be any one of 6 or 7 clubs at the start of every season, and where there are often at least 8 clubs with some major success (ie play off spots) to play for going into the last weekend.
Billionaires v millionaires with no real financial fair play rules in place to restrict the imbalance, and punishments easy to pay off, just makes for a dull league obsessed with a handful of elite teams.
Would be a much much more entertaining league if it was more even.
 
boro_98 said:
Using a fair few assumptions and some very elementary maths, the likes of Man City and Newcastle (Using Aramco’s annual profit of £180bn) make the equivalent of Steve Gibson net worth (£270million) nearly every 12 hours. Makes me wonder why I’m so desperate to get promoted and if the Premier League is all that??

I understand we are not competing with these guys, but sometimes I feel the Championship is a far better spectacle.
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The championship is only a better spectacle if you're doing well and battling for promotion. If you're going nowhere it's utterly depressing. I'd imagine clubs like Brentford and Brighton are enjoying the premier league, and even Bournemouth this season. Clubs like us can do well, but it needs the structure in place.
 
If we do go up it’s likely we’ll lose half the games which we play which can’t be enjoyable, be doing well to win 10 games all season… how much did forest spend to be rewarded with 8 wins so far, Chelsea and their 11 wins scary really, can’t be sustainable… flip side to that is that it highlights how well Brighton and Brentford have done.
 
I enjoy the championship, and the fact that no games are unwinnable. But the whole point for a team like ours is to try and get promoted at the end of the season.

The feel good factor was immense last time we went up, and what followed was the most miserable, turgid dire and depressing season I can recall. The likes of Brighton and Brentford and other clubs who have not traditionally been "bigger" than us have gone up and made a success of it, so its not impossible to be competitive, but i don't really follow the league, so I am not sure what the key to medium term success is if somehow we did go up.
 
That's what I will try and remind myself if we lose tomorrow. The Championship isn't that bad. Don't get me wrong I'm desperate for us to get to the Prem as I want the club competing at the highest level possible however I've lost a lot of love for the Premier League over the years. I can't remember the last time I watched MOTD. If City were playing for example and there was a Championship game on I would generally watch the Championship game. Feels more like proper football to me where clubs are on more of a level playing field.
 
Realisitically the aim for us and other Championships is to do a Brighton or a Leicester (not including the league title because that will not happen again). The reality is a battle for survival and providing you give it a good go, that is just as exciting as battling for promotion in the Championship.

Unless you are competing in the Championship it is a dreadful league to struggle in or have nothing to play for - we should know, we have been here long enough now.

The game has changed and will continue, in a couple of decades its gone from 'Grand Sla' Sunday (Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd playing each other). To a top 7 including those mentioned and City, Tottenham and Newcastle. Even when teams have a poor season - Liverpool & Tottenham they are still ahead of the rest. Chelsea is the one off that again is unlikely to happen again.

I guess there comes a point that we accept that our budget, size and way we are ran is that of a Championship side and we would need a lot of factors to go our way to try and stay in for 5+ years in a row.

But like i said, i am excited even if it is a relegation battle as long as we are competitive unlike our last visit to the Premier League,.
 
The aim for us must be to go up, take the money and ensure worst case scenario if we do get relegated, we have invested wisely so we are in a position to go up automatically the following season without wholesale change and starting the whole 7 years in wilderness cycle all over again.

Going up is ensuring we have a war chest to make the subsequent inevitable championship campaign more enjoyable. Or should be, providing we don't have a doyle $punking the parachute payments!!!!!!!

Ill take going down with 25 points, providing we have invested in young players with a future and resale value, or playing our own academy graduates, not expensive loans and short term, older foreign recruits wholl leave on a free or for "undisclosed" amounts the moment it gets tough!
 
Some utter tripe on this thread.
The PL has been great to watch this season and there have been some fabulous matches.
The standard of football is so much better than the Championship, the players are so much better.
Sure Man City will win it again, despite spending no more than some other clubs.

BUT,
Man City will be the only team that will qualify again for the Champions League.
Last year Liverpool were runners up, but will get at least 20 points less than last year and may scrape 5th.
Chelsea were 3rd last year, but will get perhaps 30 points less and finish bottom half, perhaps even bottom 8.
Spurs were 4th, but will miss Europe altogether this season.
Arsenal and Man U have both rallied to return to CL places. Arsenal have been a revelation.
Brighton have been an utter joy to watch and shaken things up. Newcastle have been very impressive.
Brentford continue to defy gravity and have kicked on. Fulham have come up and thrived. Villa have rallied and played some really good stuff.
Bournemouth have done so well against all odds.
Wolves have regressed, Palace rallied, both comfortably survived.
West Ham made Europe last year and fought relegation this season.
Forest made a splash, spent a fortune and may still be flushed, but their fans have loved it.
Leicester have gone from comfortable to relegated.
Soton, Leeds, and Everton look a shambles after being a shambles last season. Saints have predictably gone. Neither Leeds or Everton can feel hard done by if they drop.

The PL in just one season has significant flux, has provided outstanding football to watch and is anything but predictable.
A very different top 4, different European places, promoted clubs thriving, established clubs struggling, good clubs ebbing and flowing, former royalty relegated/danger of it.

Our owner needs PL revenue. With it, we can compete. Without it we need evermore loans while the club loses a fortune every year just competing in the Championship.
We can't hold our best players, retain loans if we stick around hoping for play offs.
Carrick has had us play some great stuff this season, but we have had enough years of Championship football to realise this has been a complete exception.
 
Even if we managed to get promoted and then go straight back down we’ll be in a much better place financially. We’d also surely have a better chance of promotion the following season too.

I do enjoy the Championship but would love us to get promoted.
 
The Championship is rubbish. Look at the teams who've finished top 6. You can only say ourselves, Burnley and Sunderland play good football.

We will be able to enjoy watching better quality football, better quality players and we'll have bigger crowds and hopefully better atmospheres in the Premier League IF we can establish ourselves as a Premier League club.

It will also enhance the club's reputation if we become a Premier League club. Something to be proud about.
 
Chappy112 said:
It's dreadful, I don't even watch it anymore, it borders on not even being a competitive sport. I watch Boro and that's about it for me, I desperately hope we get promoted because it's what is best for the club and it's future.

I see the messages in group chats with my mates when City are beating someone 5 or 6-0, why would anyone want to watch that?
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Fun fact - Man City have only scored 5 or more goals twice in the Premier League this season. Only one of those games was 6-0, the other was 6-3 against Man United. In fact, Man City have only won two games by 4 or more goals in the league this season.
 
The PL is dreadful? Have I seriously just read that? Jesus Christ!

It's arguably the best league in the world. The fact Man City seem to be the top dogs every year, doesn't take away, what a fantastic league it is. The competition from top to bottom is brilliant.

I for one would love us to be promoted, just to test ourselves against these top top teams.
 
I am desperately wanting promotion, for several reasons many already stated. The main one though is that i want to see a competitive Boro thrive. To do so, it has to be sustainable at whatever level. To be a regular top Championship team, you need the occasional promotion for the debt solution the Premier League offers, that is the starting point.

In order to be a regular competing at the top, you need luck, you need money, you need fantastic recruitment on and off the pitch. Brighton, Brentford and to a slightly lesser degree Bournemouth and perhaps even Burnley (all the B’s) are showing us the way to do it. The occasional yoyoing has to be acceptable.

I will say one thing to the fans (and owner if he’s looking in), I hope some have learned from the 2016/17 campaign and that if all doesn’t go swimmingly that lumping everything at the managers door and hounding the very person that helped lead you to the Premier League and having him replaced is usually suicidal. Were the worst to happen, allow them the opportunity to build us stronger, better, win back promotion and the chance to consolidate again rather than sacking them and always looking for that scapegoat. Keep Carrick and Carry On.
 
Our best memories as Boro fans? Either involve being promoted to the top league or being in the top league.
Before this season Man City have won the division 5 times in ten seasons. The same as Liverpool in the 70s, less than Liverpool in the 80s, and the same as Man U in the 90s and 00s, often winning those titles by big margins.
This century more different teams have won the Premier League than any of the other top European leagues.
Brighton have a decent chance of being one of the top 6 clubs in the country this season.
The premiership has got to be where we're aiming for, and to be established there
 
Marvanelli said:
The PL is dreadful? Have I seriously just read that? Jesus Christ!

It's arguably the best league in the world. The fact Man City seem to be the top dogs every year, doesn't take away, what a fantastic league it is. The competition from top to bottom is brilliant.

I for one would love us to be promoted, just to test ourselves against these top top teams.
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It is arguably the best league in the world for quality, that wasn't my point, I find it boring in terms of being a competitive sport, I thought that was pretty clear. 2 of the top 4 are owned by countries, Man Utd have spent god knows what kind of money over the last 10 years, Arsenal are the only surprise. Man City will have won 5 of the last 6 titles all while cooking the books and cheating, what a league.

Maybe I'm just bored of the sport in general, I have hardly watched the Champions League in years other than the final.
 
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