Rodri remarks about Gibraltar

TheYorkshireTerrier said:
It’s a strange thing for a bunch of footballers to chant after just winning one of the biggest games of their careers.

I much prefer Three Lions.
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The Argentinians have done the same regarding the Falklands.

The big thing here is the people who live there, and in both cases they overwhelmingly want to remain part of Britain.

Rodri is of course entitled to his opinion, but he also is in a position of responsibility. Maybe the moment got the better of him, but it was a silly thing to do when you've just won the trophy.
 
Redwurzel said:
Gibraltar is a legacy from the British Empire when we wanted naval control of the entrance to the Med and a stop off port on the way to Africa and beyond. When navies made you a world power it was always useful if we wanted to be a Global player.

Today it does look a bit of an oddity - a little bit of Britain stuck on the southern tip of Spain. The validity of a Referendum is defined by who is allowed to vote particularly where the boundaries are drawn. The same of course could be said for the Spanish cities in North Africa.
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The boundaries of the referendum were the boundaries of the piece of land. I.e. the people who will be affected.
If Gibraltar was transferred to Spanish governance, it is the people who live in Gibraltar who's lives will change considerably. Not people who live in Spain.
They are the people who will either have to live under a new Government or relocate from their homes.

The boundaries of the referendum make total sense. Nobody who is alive today have ever known Gibraltar under Spanish governance or even their Great Grandparents. It makes no sense at all to make 30k people live under a new Government or move out of their homes when 99% want to remain under their current conditions.

Why should people who live 700 miles away in Barcelona vote on the ruling of Gibraltar? It doesn't affect their lives in the slightest. We don't have people in England voting on Scottish independence.
 
Remember when the Marines were supposed to be on exercises in Gibraltar but accidentally 'invaded' Spain?
Nothing to do with this discussion but it still makes me chuckle.
 
Because of their relationship with Spain and not having the adequate facilities, they used to just dump cars in the Strait of Gibraltar when they were deemed of no further use. Thousands of them down there.

Very entitled bunch the Gibbos, but that's our fault really. We've always just given them everything to live to the point where they now expect it. They nearly had riots a few months back because the Gibraltar government put the price of petrol up to £1.20. So then the government subsidised it indefinitely so it could go back to its previous price. They tried to bring in a tax for old cars the other week. They all kicked off. Got scrapped. Pampered is an understatement.

They say they hate Spain but can't wait to get over the border every weekend to go to their holiday home in Spain or go to the market or Mercadona etc.

Oh, and they're dreadful drivers. I shudder just thinking of it
 
Counter_Press said:
Because of their relationship with Spain and not having the adequate facilities, they used to just dump cars in the Strait of Gibraltar when they were deemed of no further use. Thousands of them down there.

Very entitled bunch the Gibbos, but that's our fault really. We've always just given them everything to live to the point where they now expect it. They nearly had riots a few months back because the Gibraltar government put the price of petrol up to £1.20. So then the government subsidised it indefinitely so it could go back to its previous price. They tried to bring in a tax for old cars the other week. They all kicked off. Got scrapped. Pampered is an understatement.

They say they hate Spain but can't wait to get over the border every weekend to go to their holiday home in Spain or go to the market or Mercadona etc.

Oh, and they're dreadful drivers. I shudder just thinking of it
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Sounds like you have very first hand experience!
 
Nero said:
Sounds like you have very first hand experience!
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Well, yeah I'm here now. Been here the last couple of years. The positives outweigh the negatives for sure. And luckily I can't drive at the minute cos I've done my shoulder in so less stressful than usual
 
atypical_boro said:
Although the comments were daft I didn’t think they really warranted actual UEFA action.
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Of course it did. Got a UEFA country questioning validity of another UEFA country. Could result in violent backlash from football fans many of which, I think we all agree, do not often think crictically at times like that.

What would you say if it was Russian athletes claiming Ukraine as 'theirs'???
 
bungydinsdale said:
Of course it did. Got a UEFA country questioning validity of another UEFA country. Could result in violent backlash from football fans many of which, I think we all agree, do not often think crictically at times like that.

What would you say if it was Russian athletes claiming Ukraine as 'theirs'???
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It’s not quite the same, given there’s a war currently going on with 15,000 dead.

Anyway, I didn’t agree with his comments, just surprised it’s led to formal punishment.
 
One day Spain and Gibraltar may be drawn to play each other in qualifying. Now that's gonna be interesting....
 
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