Typifies his temperament, poor leadership, and example of a poor role model to youngsters watching at the time. A poor workman always blames his tools.
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Rubbish. Rooney was disliked on here long before Derby wasted their money on him.Post of the day. Cheers. He'll do well for us no problem.
Lots of hate because it's Derby County. They need to get out more.
Oh yesBring back Natalie Sawyer
Post of the day. Cheers. He'll do well for us no problem.
Lots of hate because it's Derby County. They need to get out more.
Lately? I always have. I couldn’t care less about 90% of the info blasted out by the 24 hour rolling dull fest that is SSN.I will be honest I have steered clear of it lately, like I always do near transfer window times, I cant stand the long list of smug looking sports "insiders" bleating about hopeless player moves no one cares about to teams even less people are interested in, like they are somehow at the cutting edge of breaking news.
Bring back Natalie Sawyer and Jo Wilson instead of plums like Kaveh Solekhol, Brain Swanson and Dharmesh Sheth. Jees, they even make Jim White seem interesting and competent.
For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience. The club immediately became Frank Lampard's Derby and Wayne Rooney's Derby (and I don't remember the media calling us Bryan Robson's Middlesbrough but I may be mistaken) by the likes of Sky and Talk5hite, and Derby immediately becoming a "big club" and media darlings - the fact that Lampard crashed and burned and Rooney almost certainly will as well seems to be being ignoredWayne Rooney seems to get a lot of hate on here. Is it because he is with Derby or what?
Honestly don't know.
I agree I don't like it when sky sports constantly refer to those teams the way you've said. In saying that though I hardly ever watch SSN anymore as it's just a tool for getting people to stick transfer bets on SkyBet.For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience. The club immediately became Frank Lampard's Derby and Wayne Rooney's Derby (and I don't remember the media calling us Bryan Robson's Middlesbrough but I may be mistaken) by the likes of Sky and Talk5hite, and Derby immediately becoming a "big club" and media darlings - the fact that Lampard crashed and burned, Rooney almost certainly will as well seems to be being ignored
To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.Very good point. I can't recall him scoring any important goals in major finals. On the world stage alongside the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, etal he was a very small fish in a large pool. I recall him either sticking two fingers up, or swearing, at England fans after one awful performance against a lower team in the World cup finals. Poor temperament and performances on the world stage, sadly.
Best post and assessment on this thread.To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.
Top England goalscorer of all time though. For all he didn’t deliver on his early promise, and as a kid he was easily the most exciting talent since Gazza by some distance, he still cantered to beating two huge records - top scorer ever for England and United - and I think everyone’s slight disappointment with how his career turned out obscures that a bit.
Vividly remember watching his debut vs Turkey and thinking jesus, we’ve got the white council estate Pele here.
Joy to watch in that United team with Ronaldo and Tevez as a neutral as well. He was an absolutely fantastic, unselfish footballer who declined dramatically too early, and not the most likeable guy, but I think his achievements do get overlooked because he never quite lived up to how good he was at 18.
One total goal at World Cups is shocking like and wish him nothing but ill as a manager
That's the problem though MrDC, people can'tPost of the day. Cheers. He'll do well for us no problem.
Lots of hate because it's Derby County. They need to get out more.
Only one goal Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants, I find that amazing, if I had to guess I would have said 4, 5,To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.
Top England goalscorer of all time though. For all he didn’t deliver on his early promise, and as a kid he was easily the most exciting talent since Gazza by some distance, he still cantered to beating two huge records - top scorer ever for England and United - and I think everyone’s slight disappointment with how his career turned out obscures that a bit.
Vividly remember watching his debut vs Turkey and thinking jesus, we’ve got the white council estate Pele here.
Joy to watch in that United team with Ronaldo and Tevez as a neutral as well. He was an absolutely fantastic, unselfish footballer who declined dramatically too early, and not the most likeable guy, but I think his achievements do get overlooked because he never quite lived up to how good he was at 18.
One total goal at World Cups is shocking like and wish him nothing but ill as a manager
There are differences with Robson, largely that he was respected by all for his temperament and leadership. Yes both he and Rooney are working class with limited formal education, but Robson understood the game, and understood how to get the best out of those around him. Rooney was more individual. What Robson had above Lampard was the the championship and english football in general was less cultured, less tactical in those days when Robson took charge.For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience