Rooney appointed Derby boss

Don’t know what all the fuss is about with Rooney and his goals for England

afterall he’s only got 35 more than Camsell. 😎
 
Post of the day. Cheers. He'll do well for us no problem.

Lots of hate because it's Derby County. They need to get out more.

No hatred for Derby. People know that Derby are professional bottle jobs.

If you had to compare Derby to a team I would probably say Ipswich Town.

I liken this appointment to when Boro gave Woodgate the job. Pulis is available to save the day when it goes t*ts up.
 
I will be honest I have steered clear of it lately, like I always do near transfer window times, I cant stand the long list of smug looking sports "insiders" bleating about hopeless player moves no one cares about to teams even less people are interested in, like they are somehow at the cutting edge of breaking news.

Bring back Natalie Sawyer and Jo Wilson instead of plums like Kaveh Solekhol, Brain Swanson and Dharmesh Sheth. Jees, they even make Jim White seem interesting and competent.
Lately? I always have. I couldn’t care less about 90% of the info blasted out by the 24 hour rolling dull fest that is SSN.
 
Wayne Rooney seems to get a lot of hate on here. Is it because he is with Derby or what?
Honestly don't know.
For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience. The club immediately became Frank Lampard's Derby and Wayne Rooney's Derby (and I don't remember the media calling us Bryan Robson's Middlesbrough but I may be mistaken) by the likes of Sky and Talk5hite, and Derby immediately becoming a "big club" and media darlings - the fact that Lampard crashed and burned and Rooney almost certainly will as well seems to be being ignored
 
For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience. The club immediately became Frank Lampard's Derby and Wayne Rooney's Derby (and I don't remember the media calling us Bryan Robson's Middlesbrough but I may be mistaken) by the likes of Sky and Talk5hite, and Derby immediately becoming a "big club" and media darlings - the fact that Lampard crashed and burned, Rooney almost certainly will as well seems to be being ignored
I agree I don't like it when sky sports constantly refer to those teams the way you've said. In saying that though I hardly ever watch SSN anymore as it's just a tool for getting people to stick transfer bets on SkyBet.
 
There's a Scouse comedian who does a brilliant Wayne Rooney. Depicts him being as intelligent as a toddler.

I personally don't have the hated many do on here. I remember him being an absolute outstanding player at his best. The Euros in 2004 felt England finally had a genuinely World Class player. If he didn't brake a bone against Portugal, England would have won the tournament I think.

From the England side three are Head Coaches now - Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney.
 
Very good point. I can't recall him scoring any important goals in major finals. On the world stage alongside the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, etal he was a very small fish in a large pool. I recall him either sticking two fingers up, or swearing, at England fans after one awful performance against a lower team in the World cup finals. Poor temperament and performances on the world stage, sadly.
To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.

Top England goalscorer of all time though. For all he didn’t deliver on his early promise, and as a kid he was easily the most exciting talent since Gazza by some distance, he still cantered to beating two huge records - top scorer ever for England and United - and I think everyone’s slight disappointment with how his career turned out obscures that a bit.

Vividly remember watching his debut vs Turkey and thinking jesus, we’ve got the white council estate Pele here.

Joy to watch in that United team with Ronaldo and Tevez as a neutral as well. He was an absolutely fantastic, unselfish footballer who declined dramatically too early, and not the most likeable guy, but I think his achievements do get overlooked because he never quite lived up to how good he was at 18.

One total goal at World Cups is shocking like and wish him nothing but ill as a manager 😁
 
To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.

Top England goalscorer of all time though. For all he didn’t deliver on his early promise, and as a kid he was easily the most exciting talent since Gazza by some distance, he still cantered to beating two huge records - top scorer ever for England and United - and I think everyone’s slight disappointment with how his career turned out obscures that a bit.

Vividly remember watching his debut vs Turkey and thinking jesus, we’ve got the white council estate Pele here.

Joy to watch in that United team with Ronaldo and Tevez as a neutral as well. He was an absolutely fantastic, unselfish footballer who declined dramatically too early, and not the most likeable guy, but I think his achievements do get overlooked because he never quite lived up to how good he was at 18.

One total goal at World Cups is shocking like and wish him nothing but ill as a manager 😁
Best post and assessment on this thread.
 
To be fair he was sensational at Euro 2004 then injured for a few in a row, then afflicted by whatever it was that made that England team so poor in tournaments.

Top England goalscorer of all time though. For all he didn’t deliver on his early promise, and as a kid he was easily the most exciting talent since Gazza by some distance, he still cantered to beating two huge records - top scorer ever for England and United - and I think everyone’s slight disappointment with how his career turned out obscures that a bit.

Vividly remember watching his debut vs Turkey and thinking jesus, we’ve got the white council estate Pele here.

Joy to watch in that United team with Ronaldo and Tevez as a neutral as well. He was an absolutely fantastic, unselfish footballer who declined dramatically too early, and not the most likeable guy, but I think his achievements do get overlooked because he never quite lived up to how good he was at 18.

One total goal at World Cups is shocking like and wish him nothing but ill as a manager 😁
Only one goal Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants, I find that amazing, if I had to guess I would have said 4, 5,
 
For me being an international player esp a striker is all about what you do in the tournaments euros and esp world cups as the rest is just lip service, and in that regard he fell well short.

look at Malcolm Mac Donald 5 goals v Cyprus... as the majority of games England play are largely gimmes so the only real test we have are the tournaments.

that’s what puts lineker in the special bracket for me as he did it v the best and when it mattered. Rooney never really did ( esp after Euro 2004)

then we just hung on to him for sentimental reasons ( same with beckham) even though he was finished at that level.

look at lane now and how we’ve moved on from accommodating Wayne in any position we could.

have we missed him ???
 
For me, it's because like Lampard (and errrrmmm Bryan Robson) he was given a managerial job straight from playing, not serving time in lower leagues and getting experience
There are differences with Robson, largely that he was respected by all for his temperament and leadership. Yes both he and Rooney are working class with limited formal education, but Robson understood the game, and understood how to get the best out of those around him. Rooney was more individual. What Robson had above Lampard was the the championship and english football in general was less cultured, less tactical in those days when Robson took charge.
 
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