Russia notified ahead of Biden visit

LargeBeerBelly said:
I'm sure Biden's not daft. He's just senile and should be nowhere near being president of the USA. It's quite frightening after seeing some of his gaffes and mumblings over the last couple of years. Why does the USA mostly have crap presidential candidates? Where's the younger folks who are in their prime?
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You do realise most of this videos have been edited to make it seem much worse?

I agree in general he is to old and not as sharp as he once was but he is capable and compared to who he replaced he 1000X more coherent and able to be president. .
 
Randy said:
Your the advisor of a world leader. Do you advise your leader it's a good idea to go to a country's capital city under random and sporadic attacks from another country ran by a mental case?

I don't ever recall Bush taking a tour of Kabul during his war against terror or Blair strolling through the streets of Basra.
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Met Blair while I was out in Basra, or somebody who looked very much like him
 
JonnyHistory said:
You do realise most of this videos have been edited to make it seem much worse?

I agree in general he is to old and not as sharp as he once was but he is capable and compared to who he replaced he 1000X more coherent and able to be president. .
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You just need to watch him speaking in real-time where there's no edits! I just don't think it's right that an 80-year old should be president. At that age he should just be enjoying his life and his family and taking it easy. I think the ideal age for that role is around 50-65. Putin's well past it too. I think he's more dangerous as he gets older. I'm sure a lot of decisions he makes are done with his legacy in mind and being in his twilight years makes him a very dangerous man.
 
LargeBeerBelly said:
You just need to watch him speaking in real-time where there's no edits! I just don't think it's right that an 80-year old should be president. At that age he should just be enjoying his life and his family and taking it easy. I think the ideal age for that role is around 50-65. Putin's well past it too. I think he's more dangerous as he gets older. I'm sure a lot of decisions he makes are done with his legacy in mind and being in his twilight years makes him a very dangerous man.
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He was the right candidate. They needed someone who would appeal to swing republicans. They needed a safe pair of hands. He is a right wing democrat with name value and there was no other real viable candidate that could have taken it to Trump.

I don't think he should go for a second term but in the main he's been a decent president and his showing in the state of the union showed he is still astute a d a good operator, he played the GOP like fools that day, speaking an hour I may ad.

To compare putin to Biden is not a fair comparison though I must object there. Failure for putin means his life, he is desperate and doing all he can to protect his position. Biden is actually governing and failure means retirement not death. Their actions and motivations could t be any more disparate.
 
JonnyHistory said:
He was the right candidate. They needed someone who would appeal to swing republicans. They needed a safe pair of hands. He is a right wing democrat with name value and there was no other real viable candidate that could have taken it to Trump.

I don't think he should go for a second term but in the main he's been a decent president and his showing in the state of the union showed he is still astute a d a good operator, he played the GOP like fools that day, speaking an hour I may ad.

To compare putin to Biden is not a fair comparison though I must object there. Failure for putin means his life, he is desperate and doing all he can to protect his position. Biden is actually governing and failure means retirement not death. Their actions and motivations could t be any more disparate.
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I definitely wasn't comparing Putin to Biden other than having such a high powered position in senior years. I'm sure Biden is a good man and I'm sure Putin is completely evil.
 
Andy_W said:
Some people just also aren't great in front of camera's like for speeches, or working on the fly responding to questions, what's more important is decision-making after having time to assess. It's odd to picka president who isn't that great in front of camera though, as loads of people will put more weight on that, than actual policies.

See Trump was quite a good speaker, and cleary confident, waaaay too overconfident that he just talked absolute crap, but he was just as bad with his decision-making/ policies, quite similar to BJ here.
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Trump was a terrible speaker but a great manipulator.
 
Starbuck said:
The difference that counts is that Trump would have gone to Moscow

Likes their hotels
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Probably because the mattresses of the hotel beds have those p!ss protector covers on for when he's cavorting with 'ladies of the night'.
 
Build Bridges - Not Barriers.

History teaches that all conflicts end up around the conference table.
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Korean "Demilitarised" Zone. June 30th 2019.


Nicosia "Green Line" - Cyprus
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Belfast "Peace" Wall
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"Separation" Wall - West Bank
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"Trump" Mexico Border Wall
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Guantanamo
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Berlin Wall
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Checkpoint "Charlie"
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r00fie1 said:
Build Bridges - Not Barriers.
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You’re correct Roofie, inevitably this war will be decided around the negotiating table.

However, there’s no way Ukraine will consider serious negotiations when the outcome will mean the loss of significant portions of their country (borders agreed to soon after independence in 1991, including by Russia) and masses of their people, with the added threat that this will almost certainly happen again as Russia haven’t abided by previous treaties they’ve signed with regards to Ukraine and the former Soviet space. This has been the position since the invasion (in fact since 2014) and will remain so until Russia are in an untenable position and have to negotiate on terms favourable to Ukraine, who were not the aggressors here.

It’s very easy for us to discuss the possibility of negotiating, but how much of our own territory and how many of our people would we be willing to sacrifice in the face of a ruthless and genocidal opponent, in this case one that doesn’t believe in Ukrainian nationality and culture and is willing to smear an entire population as Nazis, satanists, terrorists and traitors? Regardless, I hope we all get our wish of a peaceful resolution sooner rather than later and there’s one man who seemingly could do that, but he’s not if his latest speech is anything to go by.
 
Smoggle said:
You’re correct Roofie, inevitably this war will be decided around the negotiating table.

However, there’s no way Ukraine will consider serious negotiations when the outcome will mean the loss of significant portions of their country (borders agreed to soon after independence in 1991, including by Russia) and masses of their people, with the added threat that this will almost certainly happen again as Russia haven’t abided by previous treaties they’ve signed with regards to Ukraine and the former Soviet space. This has been the position since the invasion (in fact since 2014) and will remain so until Russia are in an untenable position and have to negotiate on terms favourable to Ukraine, who were not the aggressors here.

It’s very easy for us to discuss the possibility of negotiating, but how much of our own territory and how many of our people would we be willing to sacrifice in the face of a ruthless and genocidal opponent, in this case one that doesn’t believe in Ukrainian nationality and culture and is willing to smear an entire population as Nazis, satanists, terrorists and traitors? Regardless, I hope we all get our wish of a peaceful resolution sooner rather than later and there’s one man who seemingly could do that, but he’s not if his latest speech is anything to go by.
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I beg to differ, but I see your point. (y)
 
r00fie1 said:
I beg to differ, but I see your point. (y)
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You’re right that this war could be ended soon with a treaty that sees Ukraine sign away Crimea and recently claimed oblasts.

However, very quickly another pretext would be cooked up, probably in a Russian dominated area, such as Odessa (which has vociferously resisted this invasion despite its ethnic makeup) and a further collection of the ‘Ruslands’ would be underway with a convenient land bridge to Transnistria. Ukraine would inevitably fall under this chipping away strategy and then where to look to next?

Don’t forget, the same rhetoric used against Ukraine has been used against Kazakhstan and the Baltics… this is a genocidal war and ignoring, enabling and appeasing don’t end well in these conflicts as we well know.
 
"Putin" must not be allowed to keep any of the gains. In fact I would want to see the Russian naval base at Sevastopol handed to Ukraine. This would be a huge blow to Russian military prestige but would not make a real difference strategically as they would still have access to the Black Sea at Novorossiysk which has a Russian Naval base there. It would show to the world that they had "lost". Symbolism is important and Sebastopol has an importance to Russia beyond any strategic or military value.

Perhaps like the UK, Russia needs to realise that they are no longer a "Superpower"?
 
A war that could have been prevented from the start if UK/USA and EU had wanted to.
Then we got tough -
Sanctions on Russian Oligarchs - but conveniently delayed until most had left our country
We stop profiteering from trade with Russia (unless you are Mrs Sunak)

It’s as if we quite enjoy the craic
 
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