Stocko
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Will never happen apparently, but we will always have our European allies backs in a fight.
Russia threats of nuclear strike
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Randy
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It's a bit more complicated than that.I’m sure the 73k UK army would be shyting themselves with the prospect of having to fight the 1M Russian army.
Here's a map of NATO's eastern flank. Russia wouldn't stand a chance in a direct conflict unless it went nuclear.
Stocko
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Yeah, it was tongue in cheek, I dread to think how the Russian war machine would fare against our troops as they dawdled a column of tanks etc through Ukraine, very questionable tactics indeed.
Linny
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My goodness, that’s cheered me up.
Funky_Chicken
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It’s
It’s the truth though
This is probably the truth. It’s more bullying rhetoric in the lead up to sanctions biting Russians and difficult economic times for citizens of countries opposing Russia.
Russia has stated it would only use nuclear weapons in the event of an “existential threat” such as receiving a nuclear strike or a full scale invasion. Not economic warfare, cyber attacks or proxy wars. Tactical battlefield nuclear weapons are a different ballgame, but we know where Russias are and any signs of them being readied and moved towards Ukraine (or elsewhere) would be leaked all over the media - if Russia was to go down this path they’d lose a lot of support from neutrals and allies, including China.
swordtrombonefish
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Cockroaches will be OK I suspect, there is nothing that will wipe them out
S7DiscoDown
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Chances of it happing? I'm tempted to get a Steve Buscemi in Armagedon style loan. Have a bit of fun knowing I won't pay it back.
I'll maybe pop down my local Audi dealer and get a brand new RS3 on PCP. Although I grant you I'll be proper fudged if nothing happens
I'll maybe pop down my local Audi dealer and get a brand new RS3 on PCP. Although I grant you I'll be proper fudged if nothing happens
Colgates_shaving_foam
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I'd take bankruptcy over nuclear annihilation like!Chances of it happing? I'm tempted to get a Steve Buscemi in Armagedon style loan. Have a bit of fun knowing I won't pay it back.
I'll maybe pop down my local Audi dealer and get a brand new RS3 on PCP. Although I grant you I'll be proper fudged if nothing happens
JM14
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They have a point, our side have escalated tensions even further when there wasn’t really any need to
MolteniArcore
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I seriously would have thought that Russia would have used a battlefield nuke by now if they were serious about using any kind of nuclear weapons in this conflict, but the haven't.
It's just posturing.
It's just posturing.
MolteniArcore
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Exactly - we'll be dust. No point worrying.
madlad7773
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Russia wouldn't start a nuclear conflict. Nor would the UK, NATO or the US. They all operate on the same basis of MAD (Mutal Assured Destruction)
Russia ramps up its rhetoric when the invasion in the Ukraine slows down, stalls or is pushed back. Some of Putins own military has crept out of the woodwork and delicately stated its not going to plan. Putin sees Ukraine as a non entity, part of the old USSR. He's basically annoyed he doesnt control a puppet government there, like Belarus.
Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine and Estonia want a more westernised way of living which Putin doesnt want. For years Putin has played the waiting game of getting the west reliant on Russia under the premise we can do what we want as they need us. Annexing the Crimea was something of a warning shot but the world let it go. Now he's invaded Ukraine and woefully misjudged the situation as he thought the west would respond with the same nonchalance. Unfortunately, its backfired and woken the sleeping giants and where its really backfired is now they've become social pariahs. For 99% of Europe, the US and others around the world to say..no more...is a big thing. For China to effectively not back them, to monitor the situation and see how it pans out, is again a big thing. They're not there, on Russia's shoulder supporting. I suspect they're seeing how this was gonna pan out before deciding what to do with Taiwan.
Putin's reign will end the way most dictators does, eventually. He'll either be bumped off, parcelled quietly away when everyone turns against him or will fade with ill health.
Russia ramps up its rhetoric when the invasion in the Ukraine slows down, stalls or is pushed back. Some of Putins own military has crept out of the woodwork and delicately stated its not going to plan. Putin sees Ukraine as a non entity, part of the old USSR. He's basically annoyed he doesnt control a puppet government there, like Belarus.
Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine and Estonia want a more westernised way of living which Putin doesnt want. For years Putin has played the waiting game of getting the west reliant on Russia under the premise we can do what we want as they need us. Annexing the Crimea was something of a warning shot but the world let it go. Now he's invaded Ukraine and woefully misjudged the situation as he thought the west would respond with the same nonchalance. Unfortunately, its backfired and woken the sleeping giants and where its really backfired is now they've become social pariahs. For 99% of Europe, the US and others around the world to say..no more...is a big thing. For China to effectively not back them, to monitor the situation and see how it pans out, is again a big thing. They're not there, on Russia's shoulder supporting. I suspect they're seeing how this was gonna pan out before deciding what to do with Taiwan.
Putin's reign will end the way most dictators does, eventually. He'll either be bumped off, parcelled quietly away when everyone turns against him or will fade with ill health.
As none of us are privy to the highest level of info so much comes down to opinion - in my opinion you’ve summed up the situation spot on - great post
Littlefella68
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I'm not the most well informed on these things , but the blockade of kalingrad seems to be a big move?
madlad7773
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You're very kind. Thanks! (I should add I am ex military and used to work in a nuclear bunker for 10 years lol)As none of us are privy to the highest level of info so much comes down to opinion - in my opinion you’ve summed up the situation spot on - great post
Not really .. Russia can still fly and sail into Kalingrad ... Besides, Russia crying foul when Lithuania is just acting within it's soveriegn right is a bit rich considering that Russia is blockading Ukraine and threatening to cut off the world grains supply ,..
Lefty
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Like Turkey closing off the Black Sea, this is a strategic decision putting more pressure on Russian logistics. This is a campaign all about logistics and the Russians have been terrible at it.
They assumed a 3 day blitzkreig type war. Some of their conscript troops went without proper combat gear, but parade uniforms for a victory march through Kiev. They were told they were going on an exercise, then were sent to war.
They have already lost over 700 tanks, which is more than the French, German and Italian armies have between them. They are now putting tanks into service that were obsolete in the 1960's. We know they are woefully short of serviceable trucks.
The sanctions and blockades are having an effect on other hardware, especially at the top end where a lot of tech is required. Many of the Russian missiles that have landed in Ukraine have been discovered to have US components. There were already worldwide shortages of computer chips just for things like cars.
There are issues for Ukraine as their suppliers are dangerously low on many things, but it is much worse for Russia and there is a distinct difference in the morale of both sides, which is reckoned to be worth a 3 to 1 advantage in numbers.