Sad places you've been too

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Everyone likes a holiday but also must people like learning history. What's the saddest interesting place you've been too?

Two stand out for me: the Shows on the Danube in Budapest is a sad and poignant reminder of Genocide.

And Oradour Sur Glane. Site of one of the worst Nazi atrocities in France. An entire town slaughtered and burnt to the ground as revenge for one man being kidnapped and killed. De gualle said the town should be left as it is as a reminder of the tragedy. It remains as is to this day I had never heard of the place but my other half took me there en route to a camp site in the Dordogne. It's so sad and the stories of how eveyrone was killed is terrible.

Both are well done though and really make you think.
 
Two stand out for me: the Shows on the Danube in Budapest is a sad and poignant reminder of Genocide.
Assume you mean Shoes on the Danube :cool: very thought provoking. Same with the House of Terror in Budapest. Used by both Facist and Communists to torture and execute people.

One that stands out for me was Spinalonga (island off Crete) which was the last leper colony in Europe. Basically a dumping ground for Greece's lepers.

edit: .... and the subject of Victoria Hislop book The Island
 
Probably the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam but I've also been to see the Shoes on the Danube.

I must go to Auschwitz at some point in the next few years.
 

Some of the stuff that happened in the Spanish civil war was horrible. In particular the bombing of people fleeing Málaga on foot trying to reach Almería. With the Germans practicing bombings in advance of the second world war.

Google translation of front page of the site:

Address: Plaza Manuel Pérez García, s / n. 04001 Almeria.

Telephone: 950 268 696

E-mail: shelters@aytoalmeria.es

DETAILED INFORMATION

The underground shelters of Almería are a structure located in the city of Almería, Spain, as a result of the 52 air and sea bombings suffered by the population, in which a total of 754 bombs fell during the Spanish Civil War. This led to the decision to build underground shelters, with a total length of more than 4 kilometers, an operating room and the capacity to house some 40,000 inhabitants of the city at the time.

These were designed by the local architect Guillermo Langle Rubio, with the help of the mining engineer Carlos Fernández Celaya and the civil engineer José Fornieles and would become one of the most important and best preserved in Europe. These shelters have endured the main attack that the city has suffered in its history, the Bombardment of Almería.

Winter hours (October to May)

Closed Monday.

Tuesday to Saturday from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. and from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Guided tours at 10:30 and 12:00. Afternoons at 5:00 p.m. and 6:30 p.m.

Sundays from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Guided tours at 10:30 a.m. and 12:00 p.m.

The two morning visits on Wednesdays are reserved for visits arranged through the Municipal Educational Programs, during the academic year.

Summer schedule

Closed Monday

From June 1 to September 30

Tuesday to Sunday from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Guided tours at 10:30 and 12:00

Friday and Saturday from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Guided tours at 6:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m.

From August 1 to September 15, it will also be open on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.

ONLINE SALE AVAILABLE HERE: ticket sales REFUGIOS DE ALMERÍA

The visits are guided and it is necessary to purchase tickets in advance online or at the Refugios box office (Plaza Manuel Pérez García). More information on the phone 950 268 696 or by email at refuges@aytoalmeria.es

General admission: € 3

Reduced price for groups (+15), under 18 and over 64: € 2

Children under 6 years: free (you have to get a ticket at price 0).

Please take into account the following aspects:
- Pets are not allowed on the visit
- Baby seats must be folded to enter the Shelters and remain folded throughout the visit.
- At all times the indications of the shelter staff and the tour guides must be observed.
- If they purchase tickets online with a price reduction, they will be asked for identification that verifies that the user is a beneficiary of the reduction. Otherwise, they may be required to pay the difference or decline the right to access the visit.

NOTICE: Once 10 minutes have elapsed into the visit, access to it will not be allowed and the money for the tickets will not be refunded.
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The Menin Gate at Ypres on Remembrance weekend. Just looking at all the names from some of the small villages is heartbreaking.
I remember being sat near a war memorial in a village in the NY moors (name escapes me) and the names on the memorial were in groups of up to 5/6 with the same surname. It really hit home that these would have been all from the same families and all from this one small village. It's unimaginable the impact these losses would have had on the village.
 
Natzweiler-Struthof concentration camp in East France. Harrowing. I do think that it is important that people visit these places to know & understand what happened - although not every holiday of course.

In the UK - People visit the lovely village of Mousehole in Cornwall. It is famous for its Christmas lights (back in the day, it had its lights when hardly anyone put up such things). There is a memorial to the Penlee Lifeboat disaster just outside the village. The disaster happened a few days before Christmas, and we always would stop at the memorial for a brief contemplation whenever we visited.
 
Tuol Sleng and the Killing Fields.

Places you should do once for your own knowledge of society- but I have absolutely no desire to go again for obvious reasons.
 
Assume you mean Shoes on the Danube :cool: very thought provoking. Same with the House of Terror in Budapest. Used by both Facist and Communists to torture and execute people.

One that stands out for me was Spinalonga (island off Crete) which was the last leper colony in Europe. Basically a dumping ground for Greece's lepers.

edit: .... and the subject of Victoria Hislop book The Island
A really great book and brought home the reality of the island.

Auswitz for obvious reasons for me.

Menin gate last call was really moving.

Eyam felt like quite an eerie place where the first plague outbreak was noted. Not necessarily sad, but similarly to above the plaques of whole households passing was quite profound and the gravestones around the local church.
 
The Chankiri Tree at Killing Fields in Cambodia. Children were swung by their legs so that their heads smashed into the tree to kill them. The most harrowing place I have ever been.
 
I really didn’t think that Auschwitz would get me as much as it did !! I thought it would just be like a history lesson, but it is eerily quiet and you find it hard to speak whilst visiting each part of it. Heartbreaking 😢
 
Don't get me wrong, those places listed are truly horrible and I am not belittling your experiences but what does visiting somewhere that has happened in history bring to your understanding of the event. If you read about it and have watched documentaries, you must be able to understand the event and what happened to those people without having to see the actual field or camp? Maybe not, but I would not travel a long way to go to somewhere like that when I have read / seen stuff about it already and understood the evil that has occurred.
 
Auschwitz and Birkenau for me as well. Stunned walking around Auschwitz and always remember the story told by the guide at Birkenau. She said the best job you could get was cleaning out the huge pit down the centre of each barracks. It was the toilet for the prisoners many suffering from dysentery. The thing was as you were constantly covered in p1ss and sh1t the German guards gave you a wide berth and therefore you got less beatings.
 
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