That was outside the box

Then Akpom is definitely pushed over in the box, but no penalty. VAR required in the championship or at least a consistent official
 
There’s no foul anyway but if it is a foul and it is in the box (neither of which is true) then it isn’t a red. Double jeopardy law - they were both pulling and pushing in a genuine attempt to get the ball. No red.
 
changingman said:
Must admit I've seen every angle and haven't seen a foul anywhere. Fry touches Stewart (within the laws) and he launches himself forward (which isn't).

Apparently he was pulled back but at no point does Fry have hold of him. The ref has no idea what's happened and goes with the crowd.
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Yeah, he takes a huge stride & tries to trip him outside the box. I thought a red & a freekick at the time.
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changingman said:
From the video above there is zero contact between their legs though? He can try to trip him as much as he likes, but unless he succeeds, it's not a foul.
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Exactly. The behind the goal angle is the one and it’s similar to the angle the referee had. There is no contact. They are both jostling in a genuine attempt to get the ball. Until Stewart throws himself to the floor outside of the box. It’s a series of errors that ruined the game and cost us.
 
Another dodgy ref I‘m afraid and there were signs in the first half.

He booked Howson for nothing other than being a bit late and ignored a few naughty challenges and handballs by the mackems.

No foul but a close contest for a ball that was overrunning towards our keeper, a dive by Stewart into the box and that was all the excuse the ref needed to close the match down.

Absolutely robbed by another clown of a referee.
 
HolgateCorner said:
Another dodgy ref I‘m afraid and there were signs in the first half.

He booked Howson for nothing other than being a bit late and ignored a few naughty challenges and handballs by the mackems.

No foul but a close contest for a ball that was overrunning towards our keeper, a dive by Stewart into the box and that was all the excuse the ref needed to close the match down.

Absolutely robbed by another clown of a referee.
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Yep

People wonder why I want VAR
 
90% of time, the doubt goes with the defender, but not on this one, then decided it was in the area which again was debatable then sends Fry off. Ref couldn't have done more to help Sunderland in that sequence of events. Shows how football results hang on such small differences and key decisions. Even after that Sunderland got lucky with the actual penalty itself.
 
Redwurzel said:
90% of time, the doubt goes with the defender, but not on this one, then decided it was in the area which again was debatable then sends Fry off. Ref couldn't have done more to help Sunderland in that sequence of events. Shows how football results hang on such small differences and key decisions. Even after that Sunderland got lucky with the actual penalty itself.
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The striker holds all the cards,he can pull the defender usually goes unnoticed the defender clears, or as today he pulls the defender then throws himself to the deck , red for opponent and penalty.The rules need changing so that when a striker and defender are one on one ,if the striker fouls the defender in any way , he gets a card. Shearer was great at it, until Uriah Rennie saw through what he was doing and sent him off, Rennie was soon discarded and the red over turned.
 
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