The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

UK deaths per million of population 1,173
Italy 1,290
Belgium1,716
Czechia 1,194
Slovenia 1,417
Bosnia 1,310
North Macedonia 1,239
San Marino 1,884
Liechtenstein 1,257

Out of those countries only Italy and perhaps Belgium are comparable to the UK
THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS LOWER NUMBERS.
I am going to post this again as an OP
Never mind Trump getting the sack this bunch of tossers need to go asap
Can’t compare Italy, as they had two weeks less notice than us, and in that time their cases doubled, doubled, and doubled again, that 2 weeks cost them a lot of deaths and infections, same as Spain. So basically, they have a pretty big excuse. I think Italy and Spain are well past their second wave peak now too, we’re not, we’re not even at the peak yet, so we likely have another 40k deaths to come as the curve goes down.

Belgium report differently too, but I can’t recall how, I think it skews their numbers. They’re also a bit of a European thoroughfare, quite small and quite dense too, so they have it tough, to say the least.

When this is all over and the dust settles we will be seen as the biggest disaster in Europe, maybe even the world, everything we’ve done has been too slow and too soft, for the type of people and country we have. Sweden will be seen as a disaster too, they had the people to control this properly (like Noway, Finland etc), but they stuck two fingers up to the experts and its biting them again, and nowhere near over for them either.
 
As of 9am on 9 January, 3,017,409 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 59,937.

1035 deaths were reported today

82,624 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (not updated in 10 days)

By 3 January 1,296,432 have had a vaccination.
 
Comparing Wave 2 with Wave 1:

Highest number of positive tests reported (7-day average) as a proportion of all tests processed (7-day average) since 29th April (same date as last week).
Higher 7-day average for hospital admissions than at any point in the 1st Wave
Higher number of people in hospital than at any point in the 1st Wave
Highest number of people on ventilation since 29th April (13 days earlier than last week).
Highest 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test since 24th April (10 days earlier than last week).
First instance of four consecutive days with 830 or more new deaths announced since 18th April (no comparison was possible last week, but 14 days earlier than the comparison with 570 or more deaths on four consecutive days from two weeks ago).

I think it is becoming obvious that the 2nd Wave will almost certainly be worse than the 1st Wave on all metrics. Therefore, I think this comparison has become redundant and I shall retire it.
The government were advised that if there was a second wave it would be more deadly than the first way back during the first lockdown! I remember watching various experts on the news warning of it.
 
Gaupo I think the main problem in the second wave has been how weak lock downs have been and how slow, even compared to wave 1 we have been at implementing any kind of mitigation.

Also, more generally, we should have stamped out covid in the summer instead of EOTHO and pubs/cafe's opening, then schools and uni's. That would have given us a base to work with over the winter.

There is no doubt in my mind that 10's of thousands of deaths lie squarely at the feet of this government. I don't think Johnson was culling, or is evil, I think he is just dumb.
 
Yeah, they knew it was coming and still let it happen BUT, and it is an import BUT, their friends have made a lot of money (from the public purse)
 
Thing is this is going to go on a long time

lockdown restriction not a strenuous
Employers less flexible
Not as much funding for furlough
Less savings to fall back on

those have resulted in increases in school attendance from the 1st lockdown. School are show 3-5 times the pupils from the first lockdown.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 59,937 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 68,053
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 0.5% to 59,660 per day, following 3.7% increase yesterday (and 31st increase in the past 33 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 22.1% higher than one week ago (from 30.3% higher yesterday) and 65.9% higher than two weeks ago (from 70.1% higher yesterday and 97.4% higher 7 days ago)
• 1,035 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 1,325 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 10.4% to 893 per day, following 14.4% increase yesterday (and 11th consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 52.9% higher than one week ago (from 46.9% higher yesterday) and 87.8% higher than two weeks ago (from 55.0% higher yesterday and 34.1% higher 7 days ago)

First time since the peak of the 1st Wave (and only the second ever) that more than 1,000 deaths have been reported on four consecutive days.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 54,940 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 59,937
• 7-day average for new cases is virtually unchanged at 59,653 per day, following 0.5% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 14.0% higher than one week ago (from 22.1% higher yesterday) and 69.5% higher than two weeks ago (from 65.9% higher yesterday and 92.1% higher 7 days ago)
• 563 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 1,035 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 1.7% to 909 per day, following 10.4% increase yesterday (and 12th consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 50.5% higher than one week ago (from 52.9% higher yesterday) and 91.7% higher than two weeks ago (from 87.8% higher yesterday and 30.9% higher 7 days ago)
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 46,169 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 54,940
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 3.0% to 57,851 per day, following 0.0% change yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 5.5% higher than one week ago (from 14.0% higher yesterday) and 59.2% higher than two weeks ago (from 69.5% higher yesterday and 88.3% higher 7 days ago)
• 529 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 563 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 1.9% to 926 per day, following 1.7% increase yesterday (and 13th consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 51.6% higher than one week ago (from 50.5% higher yesterday) and 87.3% higher than two weeks ago (from 91.7% higher yesterday and 33.1% higher 7 days ago)

If there are more than 942 deaths reported tomorrow, the 7-day average for new deaths will be higher than at the peak of the 1st wave in April.
 
I think we know the answer to your last sentence Billy, unfortunately. I may be being overly optimistic, but does the infection rate seem to be platueing, just before a reversal maybe?
 
I think we know the answer to your last sentence Billy, unfortunately. I may be being overly optimistic, but does the infection rate seem to be platueing, just before a reversal maybe?

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that you will be right.

Yes, there do appear to be some small grounds for optimism in relation to new cases. They only grew slightly two days ago, fell fractionally yesterday (0.01%) and have fallen by a more significant amount today. The local infection rates in Tees Valley (per 100k population) have also been falling for a couple of days, so it looks like things might be starting to turn.

That said, as we all know, there is a time lag between falling infection rates and that feeding into hospital admissions and deaths. We also know from the 1st wave that deaths appear to be a bit 'sticky' (i.e. they fall at a much slower rate than that by which they increased).
 
Numbers not out yet, but based on the other home nations figures, quietly confident we might have another WoW decline again today.
 
Numbers not out yet, but based on the other home nations figures, quietly confident we might have another WoW decline again today.
It's Tuesday, and Tuesday and Wednesdays used to be the bad days (but last week climbed to Friday). This weeks data should clear things up a bit though.

From what I can see todays deaths is 1,243, if yesterdays was 529.

The big problem we have and sure fire sign that we're not near the peak deaths is that the "low number" for the week is still increasing, on a week by week basis. The big case numbers of 60k won't have hit hospitals yet either (maybe about 2 weeks away).

45k cases compared to 60k last Tuesday though, which is a big drop.
 
Last edited:
It's Tuesday, and Tuesday and Wednesdays used to be the bad days (but last week climbed to Friday). This weeks data should clear things up a bit though.

From what I can see todays deaths is 1,243, if yesterdays was 529.

The big problem we have and sure fire sign that we're not near the peak deaths is that the "low number" for the week is still increasing, on a week by week basis. The big case numbers of 60k won't have hit hospitals yet either (maybe about 2 weeks away).

45k cases compared to 60k last Tuesday though, which is a big drop.
Yep the hospitalisations and deaths to come is a big worry as you say, the NHS are going to have a rocky few weeks. However, it looks like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully, this trend in case numbers continues.
 
Yep the hospitalisations and deaths to come is a big worry as you say, the NHS are going to have a rocky few weeks. However, it looks like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully, this trend in case numbers continues.
It's only a couple of days but it does seem that casses are dropping at the mo. Remember how Hugh they were 4 weeks ago though. I think we are going to se some big death figures for a while as the hospitalizations increase
 
It's only a couple of days but it does seem that casses are dropping at the mo. Remember how Hugh they were 4 weeks ago though. I think we are going to se some big death figures for a while as the hospitalizations increase
Yep that's the scary part, there's unfortunately deaths cemented in which no amount of reduction in daily cases is going to help. This wave has been crazy, about 15-20% of people I know around the MK area have had it, fortunately as far as I know all have pulled through.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 45,533 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 46,169
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 3.8% to 55,653 per day, following 3.0% decrease yesterday (and 2nd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new cases is 0.5% lower than one week ago (from 5.5% higher yesterday) and 43.9% higher than two weeks ago (from 59.2% higher yesterday and 76.2% higher 7 days ago)
• 1,243 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, up from 529 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 6.4% to 985 per day, following 1.9% increase yesterday (and 14th consecutive daily increase)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 47.0% higher than one week ago (from 51.6% higher yesterday) and 116.6% higher than two weeks ago (from 87.3% higher yesterday and 38.1% higher 7 days ago)

New record for 7-day average for new deaths. 2nd highest daily reported deaths on record.
 
Back
Top