This is the protocol long been mentioned in the event of a royal death

atypical_boro said:
So what’s the purpose of it? Why can’t they just tell us when the funeral is? And leave it to people to decide whether to mourn or not? What’s the purpose of the “official” period of national mourning?
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Protocol.......standards should be upheld, it isn’t a mandate for the general public though.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
Why would you be averse if it had no direct impact on you?
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Because it is a propaganda exercise. Ok, no one is pointing a gun at my head telling me to “mourn”, but it is being heavily implied that we *should* be mourning the death of a person we’ve never met (ironically during a pandemic that has killed 3m worldwide). What other purpose does it serve?
 
atypical_boro said:
Because it is a propaganda exercise. Ok, no one is pointing a gun at my head telling me to “mourn”, but it is being heavily implied that we *should* be mourning the death of a person we’ve never met (ironically during a pandemic that has killed 3m worldwide). What other purpose does it serve?
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You are taking it too literally, I am a monarchist but won’t be walking around in black for the next week, just agree for the status quote, in reality it won’t affect you.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
You are taking it too literally, I am a monarchist but won’t be walking around in black for the next week, just agree for the status quote, in reality it won’t affect you.
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I just like things to have a purpose, that can be explained. You’re right it will probably have relatively minimal impact on my life personally, but in the same vein, I’m not protesting in the street about it either. I’m just commenting on a message board that it feels futile.
 
atypical_boro said:
So what’s the purpose of it? Why can’t they just tell us when the funeral is? And leave it to people to decide whether to mourn or not? What’s the purpose of the “official” period of national mourning?
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You mean like they already have? It's merely a token of respect and condolence, there's no demand on you to do anything despite what you appear to have convinced yourself.

Also, you do realise that periods of national mourning are very common around the world? It's not propaganda FFS.
 
MFP said:
You mean like they already have? It's merely a token of respect and condolence, there's no demand on you to do anything despite what you appear to have convinced yourself.

Also, you do realise that periods of national mourning are very common around the world? It's not propaganda FFS.
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Well we’ve had two “periods” in my lifetime. Both for members of the royal family, both so old the entire nation was expecting to hear about their imminent passing for months/years (and one day for the 7/7 victims). Whether or not it is propaganda (in this country or any other) is entirely subjective.

Interestingly no national day of mourning for the Manchester bomb, of which the victims were largely very young people (teenagers). I’m just raising that as I think it’s surprising in this context.
 
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Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I wonder if they've got a ridiculous list of songs they aren't allowed to play on the radio like they had during the gulf war.
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Yes there is an a and b list of songs that must be adhered to and nothing from queen is allowed either.

“ to alert DJs to switch to the news in the next few minutes and to play inoffensive music in the meantime. Every station, down to hospital radio, has prepared music lists made up of “Mood 2” (sad) or “Mood 1” (saddest) songs to reach for in times of sudden mourning. “If you ever hear Haunted Dancehall (Nursery Remix) by Sabres of Paradise on daytime Radio 1, turn the TV on,”
 
zorro_mfc said:
Yes there is an a and b list of songs that must be adhered to and nothing from queen is allowed either.

“ to alert DJs to switch to the news in the next few minutes and to play inoffensive music in the meantime. Every station, down to hospital radio, has prepared music lists made up of “Mood 2” (sad) or “Mood 1” (saddest) songs to reach for in times of sudden mourning. “If you ever hear Haunted Dancehall (Nursery Remix) by Sabres of Paradise on daytime Radio 1, turn the TV on,”
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So the purpose of which is to dampen everyone’s mood when in reality lots of people won’t view it like any other elderly stranger’s death? And people are saying this isn’t propaganda?
 
It’s time like this when people realise just how much power the monarch still has ok they don’t use it as much but it’s still there.

if Charles didn’t like a bill that has passed through parliament and refused to grant it royal assent - then what ????

that’s the big question.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Yes there is an a and b list of songs that must be adhered to and nothing from queen is allowed either.

“ to alert DJs to switch to the news in the next few minutes and to play inoffensive music in the meantime. Every station, down to hospital radio, has prepared music lists made up of “Mood 2” (sad) or “Mood 1” (saddest) songs to reach for in times of sudden mourning. “If you ever hear Haunted Dancehall (Nursery Remix) by Sabres of Paradise on daytime Radio 1, turn the TV on,”
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Massive Attack changed their name to Massive for the duration
 
The queen has been very clever in that she never gives an opinion publicly we have no idea her political views or leanings and that takes some doing. This I think has been the key to her long reign never really upsetting anyone or anything.

Charles though through his infamous black spider letters is different as we know exactly what his views are.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Yes but I’m not talking about interference I’m talking about not signing it at all as say the hunting with hounds style bill would Charles have signed that.
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It’s interesting isn’t it? Over the years I wonder if as a society we have been led to believe that they Royals have very little influence and are simply a reminder of the past, window dressing for the tourist industry if you like, when the reality may be quite different.
 
Joy_Division_Oven_Gloves said:
It’s interesting isn’t it? Over the years I wonder if as a society we have been led to believe that they Royals have very little influence and are simply a reminder of the past, window dressing for the tourist industry if you like, when the reality may be quite different.
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It is.
Did you know the monarch can not not commit a crime as she is in effect the law and nothing can be higher than the crown


3. The monarch retains “crown” immunity.​

Not only is the reigning monarch considered completely above the law and immune from all criminal and civil actions, this immunity also extends to servants of the crown including prime ministers.
 
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