Three points debacle

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Mwelolo

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Do people still believe this was the fault of the Premier league and not due to the club’s incompetence?
 
I listened to robbie mustoe on the boro podcast and he said we couldve put a team out and lost10-0 and then we wouldve stayed up.
how expensive was that decision? relegated, lost juninho and emerson and all the plans to sign some big names.
nevermind
 
Everything I've read on it suggests to me there was some degree of miscommunication between the club and the footballing authorities and a dollop of arrogance from Keith Lamb.
I don't think I've ever read Rick Parry's version of events either and he was the PL's Chief Exec at the time. He certainly didn't look good in Steve Gibson's assessment of the situation.
 
Robbie Mustoe was talking after the event, obviously if the club new they where going to be deducted 3 points they would have put a team of kids or anyone out. The club where told by 3rd in command at F.A. that it would be ok to postpone if they had doctors medical certificates for injured / ill players which they did have. Rick Parry and his deputy where unavailable at the time the decision to postpone was made (playing golf I believe).
Would West Ham or the like have had 3 points deducted.
Not in a million years., they would have got a fine and severe reprimand.
 
Keith Lamb spoke to someone at the PL who OK'd the postponement, can't remember his name, and acted accordingly. When Boro appealed that person was kept away from the proceedings 👎

West Ham were guilty of worse but got let off a points deduction because "it wouldn't be fair on their supporters" 👎
 
MFP said:
Everything I've read on it suggests to me there was some degree of miscommunication between the club and the footballing authorities and a dollop of arrogance from Keith Lamb.
I don't think I've ever read Rick Parry's version of events either and he was the PL's Chief Exec at the time. He certainly didn't look good in Steve Gibson's assessment of the situation.
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I think the club needs to hold their hands up here and take some of the blame for what happened, but what really irks me about it all is how others clubs have been treat for breaking the rules. If I remember rightly, Rick Parry was heavily involved in Liverpool and they wanted to buy Ravenelli.

All in all, in is not a level playing fields and the likes of the Parry's of this world have seen to that.
 
I definitely got a different take listing to Mustoe on Boro icons (probably one of the best ones).

He said quiet openly that the players wanted to play. He thought we 'had enough' to be competitive.

Although they couldn't have forseen the points deduction and more so the fact we could have played the kids and lost 10-0 and still stayed up (we wouldn't have lost anywhere near that with 5-6 pros and a few reserves).

I also think the two massive cup runs effected us. I wouldn't swap them for the world but you can't say they didn't effect league form. We really struggled with the shear volume of games in the last couple of months.
 
I think it's only with hindsight that we can look back & 'say we could have sent the juniors / reserves any 11 would do as it made such a massive impact on, not only the remainder of the season, clawing back the 3 points, catching up on games, but the following seasons, with been relegated, abandoning the plan to bring in the players lined up to bringing in different payers to get us out of the 1st division

My only gripe is that it wasn't wrote down that whoever gave permission to cancel the game wasn't recorded

More the fault of the FA than the Boro, IMHO mind
 
If it was now, juninho, rav and Emerson would have been rested 4 the games v Hereford, Hednesford. Chester and Huddersfield.

Fjortoft and hendrie etc could easily handled those games
 
Without the 3 points deduction there is a fair chance that we would have got relegated anyway as our form after the 3 points deduction picked up as a result of our 'everyone is against us feelings'. Also would we have got to 2 Wembley finals without the attitude we adopted with our backs up.

I agree that the whole thing was dodgy and we were poorly treated by people like Redknapp (probably his dog's doing though) and the FA.
 
i believe an FA rep was playing golf and he was in the ‘link’ of communication. Without being privy to detail we did get Carmin QC in ( who’d never lost a case I Believe ) and we still failed .

Like said above a bit of both and a sledgehammer to punish us unlike West Ham and the Tavez crime and Trevor Brooking/ World Cup 66 element .

Christ almighty we paid our price though and that’s why The Riverside all drew breath and created a vacuum when Alun Armstrong took his goal . The debacle was over !
 
S7DiscoDown said:
I also think the two massive cup runs effected us. I wouldn't swap them for the world but you can't say they didn't effect league form. We really struggled with the shear volume of games in the last couple of months.
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Surely it was the 12 games without a win between September and December that cost us, which was before most of the Cup matches.

Our form in the second half of the season was actually good, 7 wins and 6 draws in 20 games, it's the only reason we weren't cut adrift.
 
The 3 points chant helped me unleash months of angst, anger, and sheer agony. Talking about Teessiders being unified over 4 minutes in time 😤
They were even to be heard from the Holgate in the sky . Peter was most unimpressed
 
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Borobarmy said:
The 3 points chant helped me unleash months of angst, anger, and sheer agony. Talking about Teessiders being unified over 4 minutes in time 😤
They were even to be heard from the Holgate in the sky . Peter was most unimpressed
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I remember the 3 points chant at Cardiff when the FA guy came out (was it Parry?). Pure venom and we meant it, even the owld feller who was the most placid guy ever was spitting it out with fury. Go on dad 💪👍
 
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