tony pulis discusses his boro period

Interesting video

I agree with TP that he improved the financial situation at the Boro and agree managers get little praise from fans for doing this, but there was some stretching of truths in there.

We didn't get our money back on Flint, Wolves bought Traore more then we sold him, because of his buy out clause. Bamford was sold cheaply by TP and this was said at the time not just with hindsight.

Interestingly he says the goal for Bournemouth has to be promotion, which surely must have been the same goal for Boro when we had parachute payments i.e in 2017/18 and 2018/19 which we failed to do mainly under his management. He implies he did well at the Boro.

Ref: Boro best team played against in 1986/7 - no mention of 4-0 defeat at Ayresome Park ;)
 
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Continuing to rewrite history. He may have left us in a slightly better position financially, compared to when he took over but he did it through selling our 3 best players and replacing them with inferior players.

It's not as if the players who replaced them cost peanuts either. If they had have done then yes you could cut the guy some slack but we spent £20m on Flint, McNair and Saville alone, and that's before we get onto the loannees who weren't cheap.
 
Yeah.. he could have finished top two if he hadn’t have sold out best players.. great work Tony!

Adam Forshaw £4.5m
George Saville £8m
£3.5m loss

Aden Flint £7m
Aden Flint £4m
£3m loss

Patrick Bamford Sold for £7m
£1m profit!!
oh Jordan Hugill £2m loan fee
£1m loss

£7.5m is a lot of money in the champo
I like Paddy McNair but £5m is prem money imo
 
To be fair on finances to TP there was a £19m surplus on transfer fees in the summer of 2018 (Traore, Gibson, Bamford, Fabio, Barragan all sold for fees) - later that season Leadbitter was sold and Braithwaite and Johnson were loaned out to lower the wages bill. In Jan 2018 there was a surplus of £7m in transfer fees.

Ultimately TP failed on the pitch for us, as he said we had quite a number of expensive players during his spell and failed to get promotion and we had a top 6 wage bill.
 
Why do people assume it's the manager that solely chooses to sell/ buy players and make every decision?

It's not a 1990's footy manager game, everything is not the decision of the manager of the first team, it's a combination of about 100 factors, and probably has an input of about 100 people too.

I find it hilarious how so many can make such wild assumptions, and claim they know more than the bloke who was actually in the middle of it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Beat me to it, it was nowhere near the same team!

Results aside (which were uninspiring) the style of football was the worst I've seen in 40 years of watching boro.

"Results aside (which were uninspiring) the style of football was the worst I've seen in 40 years of watching boro."

Pretty much the same now I.M.O.
 
Flint, Besic, Hugill, Downing, Braithwaite, Randolph, Batth, Mikel......
Yes, and I was glad that we got rid of at least half those players.

I'm no Pulis fan, but we have had many worse managers in recent years.

Anyway, should have brought in Warnock years ago. UTB
 
I think some of what he said is valid, but he wasn't just brought in to balance the books. You could have got anybody in to do that, the target still had to be promotion with that team and he failed.

What I disliked about the Pulis period particularly that last season was any notion of even attempting to play football went completely out of the window, to the point that 5-4-1 was the norm. Thoroughly awful boring football week in week out.

Warnock's brand of football isn't the most attractive but it still isn't anywhere near the same level of mind numbingly boring stuff served up in that season.
 
Yes, and I was glad that we got rid of at least half those players.

I'm no Pulis fan, but we have had many worse managers in recent years.

Anyway, should have brought in Warnock years ago. UTB

Worse? Yes.

Negative and boring? Can't think of any as bad as he was. He intentionally sets out to ruin the game as a spectacle. You need to be winning a lot of matches to justify that approach and he doesn't win anywhere near enough.

I can only assume he either hates the game and it's his mission to ruin it for everyone else or is in fact actually incredibly limited as a coach and he can't do anything different. Maybe both.
 
Yes, and I was glad that we got rid of at least half those players.

I'm no Pulis fan, but we have had many worse managers in recent years.

Anyway, should have brought in Warnock years ago. UTB
But everyone of those mentioned would improve us now, never mind under Woodvate, who had a very poor squad to work with and none of the experience to help him do it.
 
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