Trump and the Jan 6 hearings

No matter what these hearings reveal, the DoJ is not going to do anything. This is becoming abundantly clear. Merrick Garland is asleep at the wheel and has no intention of rocking the boat by actually doing his job.

The tape of Trump on the phone to Brad Raffensperger is enough evidence alone, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that nothing has been done about it 18 months later proves that the DoJ has no interest in this entire affair.
He's a hack, i was shocked his place on the supreme court was blocked as he was basically a compromise candidate to appease the GOP. He has no backbone or desire to take on the GOP, I would be shocked if Trump faces any real consequences outside of barring him from running next time around.
 
I'm starting to worry about 2024, there's a concerted effort from RWNJ/Q Anon believers, religious zealots, Trump true believers etc. attempting to get elected onto school board positions, state official positions in charge of ballots/election management to 'prevent the steal', congress and the senate.

The country is getting more divided, more partisan, more religiously extreme.

Whilst I doubt there will be a 'civil war' in the truest sense, I just can't see the 'libs' and the 'patriots' ever finding enough common ground to stand together.

I think they're almost at the point where they need two separate countries to go their own way.
 
America is truly broken. It’s the world’s biggest cult, it’s like some form of mass psychosis, he’s not very clever, he’s not very handsome it really is hard to see what they are falling for.

"They" aren't. He lost the popular vote in 2016, and lost in 2021.

As I've said before trying to sum up all American's with these blanket statements, is like make the same statement about Europeans. Other than a flag and a common language there's very little that someone, from say a metropolis in California, will have in common with someone from rural Iowa.
 
"They" aren't. He lost the popular vote in 2016, and lost in 2021.

As I've said before trying to sum up all American's with these blanket statements, is like make the same statement about Europeans. Other than a flag and a common language there's very little that someone from say a metropolis in California will have in common with someone from rural Iowa say.
I think that was true but sadly the way his split the nation the cult of trump wasn’t just resigned to the Deep South either.

I was at a triple A game a few years ago on Long Island and I spotted a few people with the token red MAGA hats on.

So his support did come bizarrely from all states.
 
I think that was true but sadly the way his split the nation the cult of trump wasn’t just resigned to the Deep South either.

I was at a triple A game a few years ago on Long Island and I spotted a few people with the token red MAGA hats on.

So his support did come bizarrely from all states.

Of course it did, no state was exclusively red or blue, and even liberal states like CA have their republican areas (the central valley as an example).

That's not my point, my point is you can not make statements (as often seen on this board) like "Americans are stupid", as the cultural differences across the country mean there's no such thing as a "typical American" only a series of stereotypes who bear little in common with each other.

Plus a few blokes wearing a MAGA hat in Trumps home state, 10 miles from where he grew up, isn't really the gotcha you think it is.
 
That's not my point, my point is you can not make statements (as often seen on this board) like "Americans are stupid", as the cultural differences across the country mean there's no such thing as a "typical American" only a series of stereotypes who bear little in common with each
Yes I agree with that.

But I think trump opened up a dark chapter in the us that most thought had long been closed. As people talk about South Africa but the the us had their own “apartheid” not that long ago. Where unlike in the Uk actual state laws did discriminate on race.

I was on a train a few years under trump and this old white guy was having a heated heated argument with this young black guy and the white bloke kept calling him “boy” as in you there boy you hear me boy.

That’s language that hasn’t been used for decades it’s plantation terms that and this is in new york but under trump it came back.

Scary times
 
Of course it did, no state was exclusively red or blue, and even liberal states like CA have their republican areas (the central valley as an example).

That's not my point, my point is you can not make statements (as often seen on this board) like "Americans are stupid", as the cultural differences across the country mean there's no such thing as a "typical American" only a series of stereotypes who bear little in common with each other.

Plus a few blokes wearing a MAGA hat in Trumps home state, 10 miles from where he grew up, isn't really the gotcha you think it is.

I agree sweeping statements aren't helpful and many Americans I've met are amongst the most emphatic and intelligent people I know, but it's hard to get past the fact that nearly 75 million people voted for an openly rascist, misogynistic bully who boasts about tax evasion and sexually assaulting women and advocates drinking bleach to cure covid.
 
I agree sweeping statements aren't helpful and many Americans I've met are amongst the most emphatic and intelligent people I know, but it's hard to get past the fact that nearly 75 million people voted for an openly rascist, misogynistic bully who boasts about tax evasion and sexually assaulting women and advocates drinking bleach to cure covid.

In a population of over 300 million.

We have our own idiots here too...
 
In a population of over 300 million.

We have our own idiots here too...
That’s true but our parliamentary system is some what skewed as well as in reality you only ever vote for your MP never the PM unless he’s your MP.

This is why the PM can be changed mid term with no further election required as all you vote for is the MP and ergo the party.

So a Tory voter could argue they are voting for their great local MP and not boris and in reality that’s true.

BUT in a US presidential election EVERY voter knows that they are voting 100% for trump or not there’s no ambiguity or related factors it’s clear as it can be a you are voting to put that man in the White House not his party or his policies THAT man.

And as said 75 million people did that knowing who they were electing.

That’s worrying.
 
That’s true but our parliamentary system is some what skewed as well as in reality you only ever vote for your MP never the PM unless he’s your MP.

This is why the PM can be changed mid term with no further election required as all you vote for is the MP and ergo the party.

So a Tory voter could argue they are voting for their great local MP and not boris and in reality that’s true.

BUT in a US presidential election EVERY voter knows that they are voting 100% for trump or not there’s no ambiguity or related factors it’s clear as it can be a you are voting to put that man in the White House not his party or his policies THAT man.

And as said 75 million people did that knowing who they were electing.

That’s worrying.

I didn't call out anyone voting directly for 'Boris'.
 
I agree sweeping statements aren't helpful and many Americans I've met are amongst the most emphatic and intelligent people I know, but it's hard to get past the fact that nearly 75 million people voted for an openly rascist, misogynistic bully who boasts about tax evasion and sexually assaulting women and advocates drinking bleach to cure covid.
It's a fact that Trump has created, probably deliberately, a more divided and fractured America.

The revelations yesterday about him grabbing the wheel from the secret service driver, when he refused to take him to the Capitol, after which he then grabbed him by the throat, is astonishing, even by Trump standards, which are uniquely low.

He also encouraged armed protesters to march on the Capitol, which is something he should see a jail cell for in my opinion, given the loss of life that followed.

His legacy will take a generation to repair I fear, its sad to see such division and intolerance, in a country this had more than its fair share.
 
I didn't call out anyone voting directly for 'Boris'.
I get that but unlike here where we have the concept of the shy tories at election times.

Most trumpees have their allegiance proudly displayed on the back of their Dodge Ram.

Btw do dodge rams come with trump stickers as standard.4DF771EB-00D2-4CF5-9910-ECD6798D2EB8.jpegbtw I took this pic in NY - last November
 
Has anyone been following this even in snippets as some of the revelation are insane.

Seriously how is Trump not in prison.

The same reasons why Boris isn't being held accountable.

A political party who is willing to do anything to back their "leader" and a general population who couldn't care less.
 
hard core support, he would be having a crack at the Uk version of Roe vs Wade as we speak.
Aaagh I give up

no he wouldn’t as abortion pro or anti has never been a political issue in the UK for anybody of the main parties as it just does t matter in England. So there isn’t and never was any roe v wade style legislation here in England.

Now Scotland and n Ireland are a different matter there it does poll as it’s largely a sectarian issue.
 
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