UK and USA to announce deal to reduce tariffs

At least it’s not their sh1tty chicken.

I don’t see much of a market for their roided up beef over here and think there’s every chance we will sell a lot more to them than they will to us.

Interesting comment from Tango man about them stopping the use of chemicals in their meat though.
 
Looks like some good stuff in Steel and Aluminium have no tarrifs. Pharmaceuticals will be no tarrifs but not yet.
Cars at 10 % for 100,000 although we exported 467,000 there in 2024. Not said what the tarrif on the other 367,000 will be unless I missed. It.

Overall I think Starmer has dealt with Trump quite well since his tariff speech alongside the diplomats.
 
Boro.Fur said:
Anything in the deal you think is worth celebrating? Exports of steel, cars, aluminium for example.
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Very bigly cars, maybe even a Pope mobile will be welcomed by U.S. consumers on the first 100K 10% tariffefee will apply, while super shiny, steely aluminium will be able to be traded tariffefee free. He thinks this is a historic new deal ahead of anyone else in the world, in fact on Earth, its gonna grow of its own volition, prices will be different and we can buy their goods that are the best in the world like world class baseball caps for example, made in the USA by chinese 4 year olds in their state of Guangdong in Alaska he believes. Something like that anyway, Biden couldn’t do itas he didn’t know what the hell he was doing in his illegal presidency.
 
ThePrisoner said:
What are your predictions?
It is pretty naive to think that the UK can get anything positive from this US regime. They already control the UK and they aren't going to loosen that control. I'll bet that once the 'deal' is announced Trump will start to crow about how he fooled the UK into giving away a lot while gaining nothing.
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I don’t predict when I know nothing about something as that’s not a prediction it’s a guess and it will be based on my own bias or prejudices
 
ThePrisoner said:
You mean the return to the status quo ante with respect to steel and aluminium and the still reduced access for cars? The UK has gained nothing it didn't have before Trump but has given the US access to all areas. It has agreed to lose out permanently.

Starmer just responded to a question asking if the UK is better off than it was 6 months ago by saying that the reporter should have asked if the UK is better off than it was yesterday. That's a win is it? It is just sinking further into abject vassalage. It can only be a matter of time before Trump decides to annex the UK. Unlike Canada, there will be little resistance.
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It's difficult to consider you a reasonable and objective commentator if you're unable (unwilling?) to give any credit where it's so obviously due.
 
Blf said:
Cars at 10 % for 100,000 although we exported 467,000 there in 2024. Not said what the tarrif on the other 367,000 will be unless I missed. It.
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Not sure that's right mate. In 2024 we exported 467,000 cars to the US, China and the EU combined. Of that total just over 101,000 were exported to the US.
 
Boro.Fur said:
It's difficult to consider you a reasonable and objective commentator if you're unable (unwilling?) to give any credit where it's so obviously due.
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A trade deal should bring benefits. From what has been revealed today we can see that the UK has gained nothing. It has granted access to its markets with no reciprocity. It did this because it was desperate to preserve jobs, not to expand its markets.

Instead of being kicked in the nuts every hour we are now being punched in the face twice a day and we are being told to call it a big win.

I am surprised though that the digital tax was not given up. Suspect we will hear more of that in future.
 
ThePrisoner said:
A trade deal should bring benefits.
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You're blinkered. It's not a (free) trade deal, it's a tariff reduction deal and we're the first to get one. A trade deal is like the one we've just announced with India which took 3 years to conclude. I'd say getting us back to where we were on tariffs before Trump was elected is a pretty good result.

But keep knocking Starmer, keep knocking the country and don't celebrate too much all of those British jobs that have just been saved.
 
Boro.Fur said:
You're blinkered. It's not a (free) trade deal, it's a tariff reduction deal and we're the first to get one. A trade deal is like the one we've just announced with India which took 3 years to conclude. I'd say getting us back to where we were on tariffs before Trump was elected is a pretty good result.

But keep knocking Starmer, keep knocking the country and don't celebrate too much all of those British jobs that have just been saved.
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Ah, a 'tariff reduction deal'. Who told you that? :)

If that's the case then the UK should have applied tariffs then both sides could have reduced them simultaneously.

In a future trade agreement what cards does the UK now hold given that it seems it has already given away beef, and other agro products, bio-ethanol and machinery? Pharmaceuticals and financial services I suppose, though Trump will probably put tariffs on those and the UK will have to surrender completely to get them removed. After all it has worked once so why not do it again?

Also remember that Trump cannot be trusted. He won't follow the laws of his own country and will ignore a trade deal with a foreign country the minute he thinks it will benefit him, like he did with Canada/Mexico.
 
It's ironic but far from unexpected to see the likes of Badenoch & Farage criticising the deal. To be clear, anyone who was involved in the Leave campaign, anyone who directly supported the Leave campaign and, alas, anyone who voted for Brexit this is what you campaigned and voted for. Brexit damaged our trading relationship with our nearest and biggest market and sent the UK out into the big wide world with little leverage and little clout. I dread to think what sort of deal Badenoch or Farage would have concluded, we'd have been well and truly butt fu.cked. (Boris got his **** handed to him by the Aussies)
 
ThePrisoner said:
Ah, a 'tariff reduction deal'. Who told you that? :)

If that's the case then the UK should have applied tariffs then both sides could have reduced them simultaneously.

In a future trade agreement what cards does the UK now hold given that it seems it has already given away beef, and other agro products, bio-ethanol and machinery? Pharmaceuticals and financial services I suppose, though Trump will probably put tariffs on those and the UK will have to surrender completely to get them removed. After all it has worked once so why not do it again?

Also remember that Trump cannot be trusted. He won't follow the laws of his own country and will ignore a trade deal with a foreign country the minute he thinks it will benefit him, like he did with Canada/Mexico.
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Why don't you just do a bit of research for yourself and avoid speculating? You were adamant it was a trade deal and you are wrong. Our biggest export market to the US in 2024 was cars, £9bn worth. JLR and Rolls Royce are delighted and I guess so are their workers. Tariffs on steel and aluminium are zero. Although we only exported £700m worth of steel to the US in 2024 this new tariff deal includes anything that has steel components (excluding cars). Try living with an open mind it can be good for you.
 
Boro.Fur said:
Why don't you just do a bit of research for yourself and avoid speculating? You were adamant it was a trade deal and you are wrong. Our biggest export market to the US in 2024 was cars, £9bn worth. JLR and Rolls Royce are delighted and I guess so are their workers. Tariffs on steel and aluminium are zero. Although we only exported £700m worth of steel to the US in 2024 this new tariff deal includes anything that has steel components (excluding cars). Try living with an open mind it can be good for you.
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I bet you had never heard the term 'tariff reduction deal' before today. You do know what 'spin' is don't you?
 
Seems it’s been confirmed we will only accept organic beef and none of that hormone added sh1te. Any meat treated with hormones or added chemicals remains banned. Don’t see what the whinging is all about now.
 
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