UK and USA to announce deal to reduce tariffs

Unravel_Morrison said:
Tesla only make the Model Y in Germany.

Tesla only make the Model Y in Germany.

If it's the other models they'll come from the USA or China.

The US factory for BMW only makes the X-models and they'll be compliant with all global markets; they don't mess around. Hilariously their biggest export market is China. Nice one Don.
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I believe almost all European Teslas (non Y) come from China. Mine did
 
ThePrisoner said:
You mean the return to the status quo ante with respect to steel and aluminium and the still reduced access for cars? The UK has gained nothing it didn't have before Trump but has given the US access to all areas. It has agreed to lose out permanently.

Starmer just responded to a question asking if the UK is better off than it was 6 months ago by saying that the reporter should have asked if the UK is better off than it was yesterday. That's a win is it? It is just sinking further into abject vassalage. It can only be a matter of time before Trump decides to annex the UK. Unlike Canada, there will be little resistance.
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We would have been better off protected from
Enforced vassalage by being a member of the EU
 
Boro.Fur said:
Not sure that's right mate. In 2024 we exported 467,000 cars to the US, China and the EU combined. Of that total just over 101,000 were exported to the US.
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Ah ,I looked on Google. It said
2024, the UK exported approximately 467,937 cars to the US, representing 16.9% of total UK car exports. The US was the second-largest export market for UK cars, after the EU. The value of these exports was £9.0 billion.
 
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Boro.Fur said:
You can be a patronising git at times fella.
I know how trade deals work, and this was never a trade deal. Over and out.
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When did you first hear the term 'tariff reduction deal'?

Read any reliable non-partisan economic site tonight and they are all saying the UK is now worse off than it was before tariffs.
Starmer himself has refused to say that the UK is better off now than it was before tariffs.

He didn't even know that Trump was going to announce it today. That is how much of a vassal he and the UK are.
 
ThePrisoner said:
When did you first hear the term 'tariff reduction deal'?

Read any reliable non-partisan economic site tonight and they are all saying the UK is now worse off than it was before tariffs.
Starmer himself has refused to say that the UK is better off now than it was before tariffs.

He didn't even know that Trump was going to announce it today. That is how much of a vassal he and the UK are.
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They are also saying we are now better off since the tariffs were imposed.
And, we have been the first country to achieve that result.

It’s a strange world where people look to compare the deal to an economic situation that is no longer in place.
 
On Question Time last night they said we exported 102,000 vehicles last year to the USA.

All the details of the negotiations are not released or have not been finalised, but it is clear the level of trade restrictions on the UK have been significantly reduced from what was imposed a month ago.

My understanding is the USA only imposed 2.5% tariffs on UK and EU produced vehicles before 2025 entering the USA, so we are in a poorer position, but we imposed the equivalent of 10% on US cars entering the UK. Although the USA calls VAT a tariff which to me it is not. I suspect the USA Government say UK producers claim half the VAT they collect back i.e. 20%/2 which US producers can't do.
 
This MSNBC clip analyses the USA/UK "deal". It's all smoke and mirrors because Trump needs a stooge to promote his tariff regime, 90 deals in 90 days, and the UK is easy meat for that as Trump knowing that Starmer is a Trump puppet. The "deal" is a "concept" of a deal according to MSNBC.

It's worth watching to the end,


#UTB
 
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