ULTIMATE BORO FAN POLL - ABOUT DERBY SITUATION

Do we as Middlesbrough Fans believe Derby should be liquated?

  • Yes, they Cheated

    Votes: 78 44.1%
  • No, I don't want Boro potentially liquating another club

    Votes: 99 55.9%

  • Total voters
    177

DrummerMan

Well-known member
Just wondering what we all think should happen.........

BTW I did spell it as 'liquidating' - haha, but it's now Liquating for some reason - I think my phone auto-corrected it ?? FFS
 
They can go the way of Wigan or the way of Bury. Thats up to their administrators. Must admit the constant whining from their fans is doing my head in. Its not as if we are the only creditor (potentially). Are HMRC writing off what they are owed. Is the dell fella? Does mel morris still own the stadium? I am at the point where I am not that bothered as the vast majority of the fans I hear from are living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
I think they should suffer the consequences of their actions and if that is liquidation then so be it. But it won't be our fault if they are.

Totally what Willow said. I don't care if they are liquidated if that's where the situation takes them.
But FFS Boro fans please stop thinking that this is anything to do with us and just realise that if they had won the play off they would have been in the Premier League now and would have got away with their cheating and their fans would be celebrating what a great team they were and singing Mel Morris's name.
As it is they didn't, so were subject to the EFL rules. Even then they cheated in not declaring their accounts until 3 weeks into the season which meant Wycombe were relegated and now all the fans can do is call us, Wycombe and Morris worse than sh1t.
 
They have to pay us some compensation for effectively taking our place in the Play offs by financial cheating.

We are not the main reason for any potential liquidation - its more incorrect managment by Mel Morris, coupled with non-action by the Football League when every one was screaming what was going on at Derby in the years 2018 to 2021. More recently the Administrators and potential bidders are not willing to even talk Boro and Wycombe.

I will be very surprised if Derby are liquidated (and a team called Derby is not playing in the football league) and has said their stadium is not padlocked and as far as we know players and management paid probably a total of £600,000 per week.
 
I will be very surprised if Derby are liquidated (and a team called Derby is not playing in the football league) and has said their stadium is not padlocked and as far as we know players and management paid probably a total of £600,000 per week.
Tom Lawrence is apparently on £37,000 a week by himself - so £600,000 per week is probably a low estimate for all the rest and coaching staff

Source:
 
I was thinking an average of £18k/week for 25 players thats £450k plus managment team - £600k a week is £30m a year - our wage bill in 2019/20.

Based on Tom Lawrence on £37k/week I will up that to £25k/week average = £775k/week or £40m a year.

If they halved their wages bill they probably could have paid us off and possibly Wycombe too.
 
Given the punishment we received for one indiscretion and the way clubs are now manipulating Covid cases to postpone games then I'd say systemic cheating over a number of seasons that impacted other clubs directly and indirectly then Derby need to be punished.
 
Given the punishment we received for one indiscretion and the way clubs are now manipulating Covid cases to postpone games then I'd say systemic cheating over a number of seasons that impacted other clubs directly and indirectly then Derby need to be punished.
They have been.
 
Liquidated - Definitely no. No team/fans should lose their club

Punished (more) in some way - Definitely yes.
 
Is our case about punishing Derby more though? Surely what we are saying is that they have been found guilty of cheating and punished iaw the rules and therefore we want compensated for our own projected losses as a result of said cheating. To try and characterise it as a desire to inflict further punishment on derby is disingenuous imo.

The debate about whether the punishment was enough is of course a separate and entirely legitimate conversation.
 
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