What an absolute 🛎 end

exeterboro said:
You overstepped the mark at least once, and for what? I was holding a differing opinion🤷🏻‍♂️, but the sly Racist analogy and implication is duly noted.
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Dear me, if you think I am out order you are free to report the relevant post to admin.

The "sly racist analogy" is nothing of the sort it was simply an example of the use of language to excuse an attitude/bias. If you need to preface a statement with something along the lines of "I'm not racist/ misogynist/ homophobic/ transphobic/ scousephobic, BUT..." You are trying to excuse the following phrase/sentence because you know that it sounds exactly that. There was no implication that you are "racist" or any other sort of "...ist" it is simply an example to demonstrate the weakness of your argument.

An argument which others have tried to explain to is plainly apportioning blame to Liverpool fans and excusing the behaviour of ManUtd fans because the Liverpool fans "started it". It is a vapid schoolboy excuse.

The only things that the Utd fans must do is stop the "Hillsborough" stuff. They should not wait for an apology from LFC or their supporters (which as others have pointed out has already been given). Additionally of course the Liverpool fans must stop the "Munich" songs and of course they should not need to wait for the ManUtd fans to stop singing about Hillsborough.
 
Muttley said:
If you need to preface a statement with something along the lines of "I'm not racist/ misogynist/ homophobic/ transphobic/ scousephobic, BUT..." You are trying to excuse the following phrase/sentence
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I use BUT in everything and it's rather a symptom of my poor use of English grammar than any other condition, but you seemed focussed on making up my words, " I'm not " then giving it your context then repudiating 'my context' with your ' fair points' The guy in the photo used words and numbers to get across a hurtful thought ,there is very litte difference between people some times, I suppose I should be defending you as well, but then someone might skillfully and cleverly imply, I was a racist, misogynist, homphobic for that as well., I am not sure what my viewpoint would be if they implied Hypocrite and possible narcissistic, that might be a step too far and I would have to look at the people I was defending.
 
exeterboro said:
my aim is to say there is more responsibility in this( LFC) and that for it too move on, maybe the other side needs some form of group analogy, it's not about whataboutery, or Scouse blaming. But there is for definite a fan base more culpable in this and they need to acknowledge, it, you can't guarantee that Utd fans will let it go but it might help.
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Your full quote

You are saying that the Liverpool fans started it and that they need to do something about it. And let me remind you, we are talking about a Man Utd supporter wearing a shirt at a final involving themselves and their "noisy neighbours". Plainly you have some bias for whatever reason against Liverpool FC.

exeterboro said:
I use BUT in everything and it's rather a symptom of my poor use of English grammar than any other condition
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I mean unless English is not your first language, your failure to accurately communicate is nobody's fault but your own.
 
Muttley said:
You are saying that the Liverpool fans started it and that they need to do something about it. And let me remind you, we are talking about a Man Utd supporter wearing a shirt at a final involving themselves and their "noisy neighbours
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You just have to keep adding bits to it " noisy neighbours" to prove your false agenda that I'm a Scouse hater. Rather than translate my words( wrongly) just say you disagree, I can take the point that it might be for you a school childish view point, but you keep upping the ante, do you have a problem with being challenged? Fine, just agree to disagree.
Muttley said:
mean unless English is not your first language, your failure to accurately communicate is nobody's fault but your own.
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Yeah but you really got it wrong, probably because you couldn't get past your assumptions, so I just highlighted it too you too give you a chance to reconsider, not let you off the hook for really for full being a full on ****. Using those words which you did, they are going to be associated with me and my viewpoint towards LFC and their fans, it what's a lot of media do when they do hatchet jobs.
And you know it, so stop pretending to have the high moral viewpoint, even if I reconsider my view on Liverpool, my on you won't change.
 
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