When will we stop asking people who are asymptomatic or have only mild symptoms to isolate?

Mwelolo

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The time will come when we step down the testing and just let it spread in the knowledge that only a small minority will suffer negative consequences.

The most physically vulnerable will need to be shielded but those stupid enough to decide not to be vaccinated will suffer their own consequences.

I have always supported restrictions to date but I feel we have to move on soon and future proof the NHS to cope better with peaks of demand.

We need to get on with things.
 
Because they are infectious
The time will come when we step down the testing and just let it spread in the knowledge that only a small minority will suffer negative consequences.

The most physically vulnerable will need to be shielded but those stupid enough to decide not to be vaccinated will suffer their own consequences.

I have always supported restrictions to date but I feel we have to move on soon and future proof the NHS to cope better with peaks of demand.

We need to get on with things.
 
Because you can get it more than once.
Even though Omicron is apparently less deadly, it is still like Russian roulette if you happen to be one of the people for whom it will prove fatal.
We've never been able to test enough or drive confirmed case numbers down to the point where you can track, trace and isolate to quell the spread.
If we stopped people isolating then those I mentioned earlier will be facing a much higher chance of death simply because we would have more infections out in the community.
 
Because you can get it more than once.
Even though Omicron is apparently less deadly, it is still like Russian roulette if you happen to be one of the people for whom it will prove fatal.
We've never been able to test enough or drive confirmed case numbers down to the point where you can track, trace and isolate to quell the spread.
If we stopped people isolating then those I mentioned earlier will be facing a much higher chance of death simply because we would have more infections out in the community.
We would also have a high level of natural immunity.

People who are fully vaccinated and not physically vulnerable are very unlikely to die FROM Covid.
 
Tested postive this morning! Had a s***y day yesterday and now confirmed why. We have 5 day isolation here in Alberta. Stay safe out there. The wife is not going to be happy as she went to her sons house yesterday and had a NY Eve dinner last night. There where 4 adults and 4 kids and her there. I did not go as I was feeling like crap which in hindsite is good but I prey that she does not have it and spread it to them.
 
The time will come when we step down the testing and just let it spread in the knowledge that only a small minority will suffer negative consequences.

The most physically vulnerable will need to be shielded but those stupid enough to decide not to be vaccinated will suffer their own consequences.

I have always supported restrictions to date but I feel we have to move on soon and future proof the NHS to cope better with peaks of demand.

We need to get on with things.

I’d tend to agree with you there mostly. The thing that you and everyone needs to realise is the NHS wasn’t coping before the pandemic. 40,000 nurses short alone under this evil party named the Tories and therefore when it struck it was overwhelmed.
My friends wife died recently of cancer and her treatment began before the pandemic and she was treated in a disgusting way once the pandemic took hold….why ? Lack of resources right across the nhs.
He meets with the chief executive of Tees NHS shortly following his complaint and own ongoing trauma (massive boro fan btw)
The senior nursing management executive told him last week that internally the nhs has known its been overwhelmed since the very beginning of covid.
Why has nothing been publicly available ?
I believe senior nhs management know if they speak out their careers over or their nicely paid management job is almost certainly under threat

So, this evil government peddle lie after lie about do your bit for the nhs and it’s bollox
Seriously under funding through 2010 til the pandemic struck meant the nhs (WHICH WE ALL PAY FOR) has been suffering
Brexit and losing critical staff made staffing worse but the right wing nut job Tories don’t really care about us

They care about their political skin and rich donors
End of.
 
I’d tend to agree with you there mostly. The thing that you and everyone needs to realise is the NHS wasn’t coping before the pandemic. 40,000 nurses short alone under this evil party named the Tories and therefore when it struck it was overwhelmed.
My friends wife died recently of cancer and her treatment began before the pandemic and she was treated in a disgusting way once the pandemic took hold….why ? Lack of resources right across the nhs.
He meets with the chief executive of Tees NHS shortly following his complaint and own ongoing trauma (massive boro fan btw)
The senior nursing management executive told him last week that internally the nhs has known its been overwhelmed since the very beginning of covid.
Why has nothing been publicly available ?
I believe senior nhs management know if they speak out their careers over or their nicely paid management job is almost certainly under threat

So, this evil government peddle lie after lie about do your bit for the nhs and it’s bollox
Seriously under funding through 2010 til the pandemic struck meant the nhs (WHICH WE ALL PAY FOR) has been suffering
Brexit and losing critical staff made staffing worse but the right wing nut job Tories don’t really care about us

They care about their political skin and rich donors
End of.
I do realise that, thanks.
 
This may be controversial... but I'm sick of the unvaccinated stopping the rest of us getting access to our doctors and health system

We know the majority of people in hospital haven't had any jabs / or not the full course currently available

I know around 1 million can't have the vaccine for health reasons, thats fair enough

It's the anti-vaxxers I'm talking about... people go on about 'freedoms' ... well the majority of us who have followed all the advice are not free because of these idiots

Absolute joke... I'm not sure anti-vaxxers should be given special treatment now, we're two years nearly into this...
 
This may be controversial... but I'm sick of the unvaccinated stopping the rest of us getting access to our doctors and health system

We know the majority of people in hospital haven't had any jabs / or not the full course currently available

I know around 1 million can't have the vaccine for health reasons, thats fair enough

It's the anti-vaxxers I'm talking about... people go on about 'freedoms' ... well the majority of us who have followed all the advice are not free because of these idiots

Absolute joke... I'm not sure anti-vaxxers should be given special treatment now, we're two years nearly into this...
Can’t really disagree with that.
 
We would also have a high level of natural immunity.

People who are fully vaccinated and not physically vulnerable are very unlikely to die FROM Covid.
We still don't know whether there will be natural immunity for any length of time (although there are encouraging studies wrt Omicron).

Your whole argument seems to be based on the premise that we've done virtually nothing to prevent the spread so lets just go the whole hog. That is exceedingly dangerous to those who will be severely affected. Are you really that selfish?
 
We have 200 deaths a day and it doesn’t register with people.
I guess the issue is that we will never have 0 deaths, like we don't with many other diseases like flu, so at some point we will have to accept it is a part of life and we can do everything we can to protect against it in the form of vaccinations but we no longer enforce isolation/quarantine/restrictions. That time will come, not sure we're at that point yet.

Also, at some point they will stop reporting deaths as died within 28 days of a positive covid test and start reporting it as died of covid because it is important to distinguish between whether it is killing people or not, especially if it is a less severe variant.
 
We still don't know whether there will be natural immunity for any length of time (although there are encouraging studies wrt Omicron).

Your whole argument seems to be based on the premise that we've done virtually nothing to prevent the spread so lets just go the whole hog. That is exceedingly dangerous to those who will be severely affected. Are you really that selfish?
Those who are vulnerable will need to be shielded to varying degrees.

Those who choose not to be vaccinated can face the consequences of their own foolishness.
 
I guess the issue is that we will never have 0 deaths, like we don't with many other diseases like flu, so at some point we will have to accept it is a part of life and we can do everything we can to protect against it in the form of vaccinations but we no longer enforce isolation/quarantine/restrictions. That time will come, not sure we're at that point yet.

Also, at some point they will stop reporting deaths as died within 28 days of a positive covid test and start reporting it as died of covid because it is important to distinguish between whether it is killing people or not, especially if it is a less severe variant.
Absolutely spot on.
 
Problem is to many "learning to live" with covid is simply ignoring it.

Something that *might* be possible if we had the health infrastructure in place to manage the numbers of seriously infected, but we just don't through a decade of cuts to the NHS.

Covid is only part of our problem, the other part is we have an incompetent government who are held to ransom by the ERG loons.
 
I’d tend to agree with you there mostly. The thing that you and everyone needs to realise is the NHS wasn’t coping before the pandemic. 40,000 nurses short alone under this evil party named the Tories and therefore when it struck it was overwhelmed.
My friends wife died recently of cancer and her treatment began before the pandemic and she was treated in a disgusting way once the pandemic took hold….why ? Lack of resources right across the nhs.
He meets with the chief executive of Tees NHS shortly following his complaint and own ongoing trauma (massive boro fan btw)
The senior nursing management executive told him last week that internally the nhs has known its been overwhelmed since the very beginning of covid.
Why has nothing been publicly available ?
I believe senior nhs management know if they speak out their careers over or their nicely paid management job is almost certainly under threat

So, this evil government peddle lie after lie about do your bit for the nhs and it’s bollox
Seriously under funding through 2010 til the pandemic struck meant the nhs (WHICH WE ALL PAY FOR) has been suffering
Brexit and losing critical staff made staffing worse but the right wing nut job Tories don’t really care about us

They care about their political skin and rich donors
End of.
👆this - exactly this. Speaking as one of those considered vulnerable and likely to suffer negative impact (For negative impact read infection -pneumonitis - ICU - ventilation- probable death) if I catch COVID, I and the rest of us are presented by this government, trumpeted by the MSM and accepted by too many of the plebs (as they see them) as ‘acceptable losses’. Our health minister lauds the UK as ‘the least restricted’ whilst omitting to mention the cost attached to this freedom. Well when the populist scales fall from the nations eyes remember that almost every death could have been prevented if these b******s hadn’t pursued their ideological obsessions to run down and privatise the NHS. Rant over
 
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