Workers’ rights at risk post Brexit

Well you are disparaging my character absolutely. That’s up to you I can’t stop you doing that but it’s worth remembering that you have never met me and your dislike of me seems purely to come from the fact I voted for Brexit. I also voted for the Labour Party and support Boro, so perhaps my character is not all bad

In what way am I? By pointing out that in this single, isolated case you're being disingenuous.

I don't dislike you, I don't know you and the fact that you're ignoring where I say as much in my previous post is just... Weird?
 
This government clearly wants to reduce rights irrespective of Brexit, but Brexit has directly and indirectly (got them the majority) given them the opportunity.

I agree. (y)

But nothing gives the tories more opportunity directly or indirectly than people voting for them. 🤷‍♂️
 
I think there's a few people being disingenuous on this thread - putting erosion of worker's right solely on Brexit. The two aren't intrinsically linked. The fact we've left the EU doesn't automatically mean we now HAVE to remove workers rights.

Let's be honest - hypothetically supposing Corbyn's Labour or even Swinson's Lib Dems had won the seats to form a government in Dec 2019 does anyone really think they'd be ripping up workers rights? Or if, again hypothetically, it was possible to have an SNP government for the UK that they'd be doing it? Obviously not. This is entirely down to having the party that hate workers in government. Even if we had Starmer's Labour party in government now, there wouldn't be any suggestion that workers rights should erode.



It's this but in reverse. Covering your *rse by putting everything down to the vote you're still happy with and not the vote you regret ST. 🤷‍♂️
Yes - but some of us recognise that the party of hate has been in government for the majority of the last century and would always do this when given the opportunity.

For absolutely nothing in return Brexit has given them this opportunity.

I for one can't wait to be luxuriating in all that abstract sovereignty when my boss forces me to work extra hours.
 
First they deny it then they will chip away at the edges, eg by recalculating how holiday pay is paid, and in 5 years it will be too late. The cap doffers will say ‘count yourself lucky that you have a job’.

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The erosion of workers rights is what they were after all along as can be seen in the book they co authored.

Below is a quote from their book, Brittania Unchained.

"The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor."

Utter claptrap.

Retire early?

A huge swathe of the population who have been in low paid jobs all of their lives, can look forward to receiving one of the worst state pensions in europe, and having to wait longer for it.
 
You certainly could see it a mile off if the Tories got in at the last election. They spent a month going around the country telling anyone who would listen they were going to GET BREXIT DONE. They didn’t say a great deal about anything else really and when they ended up getting elected with a massive majority guess what they did?? And you voted for them. So either put a tin lid on it or continue the wind up but it really is becoming tedious now.
Aw bless another one who thinks I started this thread, and another one with the same tedious response. Brexiteers seem to be adopting a hive mind as the hunker down and try and ignore the failures
 
I can tell you Tony Blair or Gordon Brown did not sign up to all of it and protect the British workers. In fact I am 46 years old and labour let more heavy industries close on Teeside than conservative since I was allowed to vote
 
Aw bless another one who thinks I started this thread, and another one with the same tedious response. Brexiteers seem to be adopting a hive mind as the hunker down and try and ignore the failures
Whatever the failures of brexit are you voted for the government that implemented it. I’ll give you this you are nearly as good as expo on the wind up front.
 
Whatever the failures of brexit are you voted for the government that implemented it. I’ll give you this you are nearly as good as expo on the wind up front.
Good deflection. I'm glad the hive of brexiteers have me to deflect from talking about the failures of brexit.

Any chance you could talk about workers rights? How do you feel about the erosion of workers rights?
 
This is what you want so next election Try hey get shot out and who ever offers the working man the best deal will get his vote
Labour did at the last 2 elections but the country was told not to listen to such madcap ideas by those who would be scared stiff of it happening.
I can tell you Tony Blair or Gordon Brown did not sign up to all of it and protect the British workers. In fact I am 46 years old and labour let more heavy industries close on Teeside than conservative since I was allowed to vote
Brown & Blair were never Labour in the first place & Starmer is sadly no different tory lite in red ties under the labour banner & as you clearly pointed out neither of them changed a damn thing after thatcher destroyed the unions now you see why the working man has said labour has abandoned them & under Blair & Brown they did.

When everyone was screaming for millionaires paying more tax the one thing that scared them to death about Labour under Corbyn was exactly this giving back more rights to workers the rich don't care how much tax they have to pay but of course if anyone comes along & says you can get away with not paying they're not going to turn that down.

I voted remain but I was willing to go along with the result the only thing I wanted to fight against more than anything was a tory Brexit anyone who thought the tories would negotiate a Brexit that would be better for the people especially the working class in this country must be on drugs & workers rights was something that needed protecting.

As already mentioned you could see this coming a mile off but it was quickly dismissed as project fear normally I would say you made your bed now lie in it but with Brexit you made your bed but now we all have to lie in it.

But hey they got Brexit done (for them)
 
Good deflection. I'm glad the hive of brexiteers have me to deflect from talking about the failures of brexit.

Any chance you could talk about workers rights? How do you feel about the erosion of workers rights?
Im against any erosion of workers rights. You are the Tory remember not me. And before you ask I’ve said a million times on here that there should never have been a referendum in the first bloody place and if MPs could do the job they are paid for there never would have been. You voted for the biggest bunch of clowns that this country has ever had the misfortune to govern it yet have the bare faced cheek to lecture others on their flagship policy. Over and out it’s beyond boring.
 
Im against any erosion of workers rights. You are the Tory remember not me. And before you ask I’ve said a million times on here that there should never have been a referendum in the first bloody place and if MPs could do the job they are paid for there never would have been. You voted for the biggest bunch of clowns that this country has ever had the misfortune to govern it yet have the bare faced cheek to lecture others on their flagship policy. Over and out it’s beyond boring.
So you're anti brexit?
 
Labour did at the last 2 elections but the country was told not to listen to such madcap ideas by those who would be scared stiff of it happening.

Brown & Blair were never Labour in the first place & Starmer is sadly no different tory lite in red ties under the labour banner & as you clearly pointed out neither of them changed a damn thing after thatcher destroyed the unions now you see why the working man has said labour has abandoned them & under Blair & Brown they did.

When everyone was screaming for millionaires paying more tax the one thing that scared them to death about Labour under Corbyn was exactly this giving back more rights to workers the rich don't care how much tax they have to pay but of course if anyone comes along & says you can get away with not paying they're not going to turn that down.

I voted remain but I was willing to go along with the result the only thing I wanted to fight against more than anything was a tory Brexit anyone who thought the tories would negotiate a Brexit that would be better for the people especially the working class in this country must be on drugs & workers rights was something that needed protecting.

As already mentioned you could see this coming a mile off but it was quickly dismissed as project fear normally I would say you made your bed now lie in it but with Brexit you made your bed but now we all have to lie in it.

But hey they got Brexit done (for them)
Mate what can I say I am a contractor stood up for my rights on many jobs and the union betrayed us at the last minute. I did not vote Brexit people assume that I did. I want a party that tax the rich correctly not so their is no point in making money or not investing in the uk. A party that looks after workers rights. A party that is their for you when you need it but makes sure it’s not better to claim than work and I do not care if that is the cons or labour I would vote for anyone that helps those that work and stops big companies avoid tax.
 
Mate what can I say I am a contractor stood up for my rights on many jobs and the union betrayed us at the last minute. I did not vote Brexit people assume that I did. I want a party that tax the rich correctly not so their is no point in making money or not investing in the uk. A party that looks after workers rights. A party that is their for you when you need it but makes sure it’s not better to claim than work and I do not care if that is the cons or labour I would vote for anyone that helps those that work and stops big companies avoid tax.
Careful your beginning to sound like a mad bonkers Marxist loony left socialist we are the enemy now you know😉
I agree with you on all of that but since thatcher they have both hands tied behind their backs. I am a big supporter of unions I think in the main they do more good than harm but I will also say they need a lot of reform too. A lot of people see unions as the militant ones from the 70’s but workers need support when employers take the pish & a hell of a lot do I know I’ve worked for quite a few. I didn’t assume anything you vote how you vote for the party that you align with. Big businesses not paying tax is not going to change now regardless of if the Torys or starmer get elected. There has only been 1 party leader who in the last 20 years has said he will tax these companies & give back rights to workers & look what happened to him even from some in his own party. Now we have left the only body that stopped these lot from treating us however they like unfortunately we are going to have to live with it for now because it ain’t changing soon.
 
We've done this before about state pensions, so you should know it by now it is called "Shifting the Overton Window".

The Govt can't come out & reduce the workers rights that would be massively unpopular.

So they drip feed it into the media via leaks, think tank reports, business leaders complaining about lack of productivity & being uncompetitive with EU firms due to 'red tape', workers that are paid peanuts & want to work 60 hours a week so that they've got some money to spend.
They've now admitted they're looking at it. Perhaps a 72 hour minimum week will get us to be a higher wage economy?
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They've now admitted they're looking at it. Perhaps a 72 hour minimum week will get us to be a higher wage economy?
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They were warned about the real drivers for the Brexit campaign, they were advised of the untold damage it would cause them, that their Tory masters didn't really have their best interests at heart only their bank balances and their sick ideology. But they still voted for it and they are going to reap what they have sowed whilst dragging everyone else down with them.
 
They were warned about the real drivers for the Brexit campaign, they were advised of the untold damage it would cause them, that their Tory masters didn't really have their best interests at heart only their bank balances and their sick ideology. But they still voted for it and they are going to reap what they have sowed whilst dragging everyone else down with them.
Sorry for your loss
 
Project fear innit.

I think that's the most depressing thing about brexit. You could see this coming a mile off
Cameron origally wanted to get rid ofthe Working Time Directive but EU rightly blocked him. So it was always going to come back. Hand in hand with big business it will always end badly. The incompetent and the greedy a marriage made in heaven.
 
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