Would you travel on a 737 Max?

Lurkalot

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I see the 737 Max has been approved to operate in Europe. I've got to be honest, I think I'd find it a bit too much of an **** twitcher.

It seems there are still some real concerns.


Would you be bothered, or would you use another airline who used a different aircraft?
 
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Right now, with all the extra safety measures they had to add in, and all the scrutiny it's been under, it's probably one of the safest planes around.

Plus there's now no chance any pilot anywhere is still unaware of the MCAS system and how to avoid any problems with it that might arise (which they shouldn't anyway, because of the modifications).
 
You would be unlikely to know when you booked it though and probably wouldn’t know until you saw it. And at that point it’s a bit tough to pull out.
given the choice I would certainly avoid if I could
Me too
I’d like to know before I booked ffs
Really don’t want to get on one of those death buckets !!!
 
Right now, with all the extra safety measures they had to add in, and all the scrutiny it's been under, it's probably one of the safest planes around.

Plus there's now no chance any pilot anywhere is still unaware of the MCAS system and how to avoid any problems with it that might arise (which they shouldn't anyway, because of the modifications).
Still. Not for me given the aerodynamic changes to the engines which affect how the plane operates meaning pilots experience something different from the normal and more prone to errors or erratic flying
No thanks
 
Right now, with all the extra safety measures they had to add in, and all the scrutiny it's been under, it's probably one of the safest planes around.

Plus there's now no chance any pilot anywhere is still unaware of the MCAS system and how to avoid any problems with it that might arise (which they shouldn't anyway, because of the modifications).
Agree. Probably the safest plane to fly in. However I do worry with so many planes grounded, when they can fly I wonder how thorough they will be checked. There's not enough engineers to carry all those checks out. Planes are best in the air with on line condition monitoring. Just a thought.
 
I see the 737 Max has been approved to operate in Europe. I've got to be honest, I think I'd find it a bit too much of an **** twitcher.

It seems there are still some real concerns.


Would you be bothered, or would you use another airline who used a different aircraft?

Remember the teething issues the dreamliner had when it first launched?

We were on the way to Florida on one when they first started flying. Hit a bit of turbulence and I freaked out. I've never been scared about flying before until that moment. Me and the wife put it down to the constant coverage of it in the news that subliminally messed with my head. 😂
 
You would be unlikely to know when you booked it though and probably wouldn’t know until you saw it. And at that point it’s a bit tough to pull out.
given the choice I would certainly avoid if I could
To be fair, I don't even think most people would know when they saw it. I reckon the realisation would come when (if) reading the safety/exits card, and it said Boeing 737 Max at the top!!
 
Agree. Probably the safest plane to fly in. However I do worry with so many planes grounded, when they can fly I wonder how thorough they will be checked. There's not enough engineers to carry all those checks out. Planes are best in the air with on line condition monitoring. Just a thought.
It takes 3 days to do a stand up check before flying and there is a legal minimum man power requirement so I wouldn’t worry. There’s enough engineers to safely return aircraft to service, just don’t expect your tv screen to work...

I’d fly on a 737 max, would be more concerned about aircraft with GE90 engines personally, there’s issues with them dumping carbon on startup and shutting down after being sitting around for a year. Extra checks, extra work and why you might see the 380s back out of short term storage this summer 😉
 
You can
You would be unlikely to know when you booked it though and probably wouldn’t know until you saw it. And at that point it’s a bit tough to pull out.
given the choice I would certainly avoid if I could
You can check the plane that you’ll be travelling on with most scheduled flights now using websites like Seatguru. I always check the plane type and seating lay out before booking, and given the choice I think I’d give a 737 Max a miss for now.
 
Remember the teething issues the dreamliner had when it first launched?

We were on the way to Florida on one when they first started flying. Hit a bit of turbulence and I freaked out. I've never been scared about flying before until that moment. Me and the wife put it down to the constant coverage of it in the news that subliminally messed with my head. 😂
Never look out of the window when that happens. I don't know whether it was psychological but the flexing of the Dreamliner wings during turbulence seemed a whole lot worse than other planes. I did not like.
 
Never look out of the window when that happens. I don't know whether it was psychological but the flexing of the Dreamliner wings during turbulence seemed a whole lot worse than other planes. I did not like.
Yep noticed that aswell now you've mentioned it. Was deft weird to see when like you say compared to other planes.
 
Not for me given the aerodynamic changes to the engines which affect how the plane operates meaning pilots experience something different from the normal and more prone to errors or erratic flying
But that's the while point of all the remedial measures they've had to take. The changed flying characteristics were only a problem when the MCAS malfunctioned and the pilots didn't know how to deal with it (because they didn't even know the MCAS existed, since Boeing hadn't included it in the flight manual).

Now all those problems with the MCAS have been rectified and you can be sure every pilot everywhere knows all about the MCAS system, what it does, how it works and how to deal with it if necessary.
 
It takes 3 days to do a stand up check before flying and there is a legal minimum man power requirement so I wouldn’t worry. There’s enough engineers to safely return aircraft to service, just don’t expect your tv screen to work...

I’d fly on a 737 max, would be more concerned about aircraft with GE90 engines personally, there’s issues with them dumping carbon on startup and shutting down after being sitting around for a year. Extra checks, extra work and why you might see the 380s back out of short term storage this summer 😉

Thanks for adding another fear into the mix there mate 😱

So, before travel ensure the following at check in desk
1. The plane is not a Boeing 737 Max
2. The plane doesn’t have GE90 engines
3. Enquire whether the plane has been stored for long
4. If a Boeing 777 ask if they could do a quick carbon dump check
5. Ask to check if the pilot and his crew are up to date on training with MCAS flaws

The check in desk will love me

Furthermore, I was not reassured to read this ......... "In parallel, and at our insistence, Boeing has also committed to work to enhance the aircraft still further in the medium term, in order to reach an even higher level of safety." So basically they are saying they feel the aircraft can be made safer than it is currently, that’s reassuring !!! I think TUI are the only UK operator of this plane at present, but others have them on order. I am glad I don’t live near an airport

Anyway as I have said previously, flying is inherently very safe, it’s not flying people should be worried about, it's crashing.
 
Yet another example of capitalism's tendency towards profit before safety. Shareholders want their returns, no matter what.
They were warned about compromises to safety long before the first accident and also before the second. I am not sure how nobody has been charged with corporate manslaughter.
The incestuous relationship between boeing and the FAA is disgusting but typical of corporations whereby those who are supposed to be regulated are, in fact, involved in the regulation.
 
Yet another example of capitalism's tendency towards profit before safety. Shareholders want their returns, no matter what.
They were warned about compromises to safety long before the first accident and also before the second. I am not sure how nobody has been charged with corporate manslaughter.
The incestuous relationship between boeing and the FAA is disgusting but typical of corporations whereby those who are supposed to be regulated are, in fact, involved in the regulation.
It's been cleared to fly by EASA as well.
 
I'd fly on one no bother.

The older 737's had the rudder hard over issue for a while and quite a few went in from that didn't they?

It'll be reet. I've flown to Ascension and even Australia on a Herc, and all over the world on VC-10's held together with speed tape.

I'd be happy on a Max.
 
Certainly would, the problems with the MCAS will have been sorted and tested by now. By the sounds of it they may have been sorted, or at least a work around after the first accident, which was missed by the flight crew on the second one. Whether that should have been a "work around" or not is a different story altogether mind, but every aircraft has them.

Even with a messed up MCAS it was still probably safer to fly in than the drive to the airport. That's the thing with air crashes, they make big, big news, as they're so rare, the airline industry's problem is its own success and safety.

It's like how we have 1200 Covid deaths per day, just in the UK and it's news, big news, but that's the same figure as 6 airline crashes, and it's been 2-6 airline crashes every day since November. I know it's not exactly comparable like that, not even close, but it's just a numeric example.
I wonder there were 2-6 planes falling out of the sky each day, that we would have a portion of people going "it's made up, I'm going on holiday, what do those pilots know".
 
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