YouGov Poll.

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Chris_Boro

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"Labour takes the lead for the first time since January in our latest Westminster voting intention poll (8-9 Sep)

Con: 33% (-5 from 2-3 Sep)
Lab: 35% (+1)
Lib Dem: 10% (+2)
Green: 9% (-1)
SNP: 5% (n/c)
Reform UK: 5% (+2)"

Still seems a bit of a outlier, but will be interesting to see if the fallout continues as Furlough and UC uplift ends with the increase in NI on top.
 
That will be from last week too I expect so the **** show of this week wont even be reflected yet. Are people finally starting to realise whats going on...
 
There will be further flip flopping I am sure but if its difficult to see where the tories get another bounce from after vaccination.
 
Considering how brainwashed people have been perhaps now some of them are starting to see through Johnson and his acolytes. It seems that a lot of vote intentions have not gone directly to Labour but shared among other opposition parties. At least it is a start in the right direction
 
Trug said:
Considering how brainwashed people have been perhaps now some of them are starting to see through Johnson and his acolytes. It seems that a lot of vote intentions have not gone directly to Labour but shared among other opposition parties. At least it is a start in the right direction
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Something I will look to at Trug, things that have happened recently, which have been a major impact with their promises, nothing about Brexit mind & although some certain experts on here cant believe people could change their minds on voting for different parties, could be interesting over the next few years & certainly leading up to the next GE
 
zorro_mfc said:
Sadly never underestimate the power of the shy Tory voter. As Very few admit publicly to voting for this cabal but someone must do.

as they keep getting in over and over again.

so sadly I’ll never get too optimistic about these things.
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Who responds to a poll is not public knowledge.

However the Tories now have very little to come back with to counter what's to come. People, including shy Tories, are about to be hit in the pocket repeatedly from everywhere.

If I was to predict the next election though, I don't see any party with an overall majority. Probably a Labour/SNP coalition.
 
Now the tories are reaching their grubby hands directly into voters pockets via the NI increase they will have lost a lot of support amongst the I'm alright Jack shy tories.

Combined with shambolic, negligent, catastrophic pandemic response and the general stench of sleaze and corruption pervading the tory Party it is difficult to see who votes for them?

I've been constantly on the wrong side of these votes for years now though so what do I know.
 
Chris I agree that the best Labour can hope for is to stop the conservatives getting a majority, which I believe they will.

Would they then form a coalition with the SNP is a different matter. Any coalition may be contingent on a Scottish independence referendum which I don't know that Starmer would go for.

I agree that with brexit going wrong, covid vaccination programme nearing conclusion, boosters not withstanding and the recent hike in NI I just cannot see where the tory get their next bounce.
 
As Zorro says 'shy Tories' seem to put their X next to the Tory candidate come elections
Also the Tory press will get at Starmer and big up Boris in the run up to the next election
I wonder how many will remember the latest tax increases - we've now got the highest levels in 70 years - come election time..
At the risk of sounding like a Corbynista I feel the main opposition needs to be far more in the lead mid parliament to have a chance of winning power
I expect the Tories to be well ahead come the next election, even though I don't feel they deserve to be
 
Laughing said:
Chris I agree that the best Labour can hope for is to stop the conservatives getting a majority, which I believe they will.

Would they then form a coalition with the SNP is a different matter. Any coalition may be contingent on a Scottish independence referendum which I don't know that Starmer would go for.

I agree that with brexit going wrong, covid vaccination programme nearing conclusion, boosters not withstanding and the recent hike in NI I just cannot see where the tory get their next bounce.
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Blame it all on Johnson, replace him with someone seen as more competent (Sunak quite possibly) and it might mitigate some of the damage. Might not be a bounce, but my feeling is some people don't need much of an excuse to vote Tory. Johnson getting the boot might be enough to bring them back.
 
festa5 said:
Blame it all on Johnson, replace him with someone seen as more competent (Sunak quite possibly) and it might mitigate some of the damage. Might not be a bounce, but my feeling is some people don't need much of an excuse to vote Tory. Johnson getting the boot might be enough to bring them back.
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Yep. I started to try and read something into that poll before realising that I lost any faith in the English electorate a long time ago so I was wasting my time. But the fascists are on 5% ffs.
 
festa5 said:
Blame it all on Johnson, replace him with someone seen as more competent (Sunak quite possibly) and it might mitigate some of the damage. Might not be a bounce, but my feeling is some people don't need much of an excuse to vote Tory. Johnson getting the boot might be enough to bring them back.
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That may well be true Festa, I hope not and I think the tories may have to go outside their front bench for the next PM, with the exception of Gove but I think he comes across as weasely. He has managed to distance himself from Johnson quite well, as has Sunak, but ultimately won't the public blame the government rather than just johnson?

I don't know.
 
Capybara said:
Yep. I started to try and read something into that poll before realising that I lost any faith in the English electorate a long time ago so I was wasting my time. But the fascists are on 5% ffs.
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Noticed that too about Farage's latest collection of *****. Utterly depressing.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Sadly never underestimate the power of the shy Tory voter. As Very few admit publicly to voting for this cabal but someone must do.

as they keep getting in over and over again.

so sadly I’ll never get too optimistic about these things.
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way round with Yougov poles. I heard they favour the tories.
 
Laughing said:
That may well be true Festa, I hope not and I think the tories may have to go outside their front bench for the next PM, with the exception of Gove but I think he comes across as weasely. He has managed to distance himself from Johnson quite well, as has Sunak, but ultimately won't the public blame the government rather than just johnson?

I don't know.
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You'd think so, but hard to say. Most of us commenting on these threads are quite clued up on politics, more so than your average punter and understand anyone in this Cabinet is culpable for this government's performance. Would your average voter see it that way though? Don't know.

Agree re: Gove. A face I'd never tire of slapping.
 
festa5 said:
You'd think so, but hard to say. Most of us commenting on these threads are quite clued up on politics, more so than your average punter and understand anyone in this Cabinet is culpable for this government's performance. Would your average voter see it that way though? Don't know.

Agree re: Gove. A face I'd never tire of slapping.
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Yup I agree about the general malaise in the electorate but you suddenly start to take an interest in the economy when your weekly shop goes up by 20%. It was 10p snacks going up to 15p that sparked my interest in politics.
 
Laughing said:
Chris I agree that the best Labour can hope for is to stop the conservatives getting a majority, which I believe they will.

Would they then form a coalition with the SNP is a different matter. Any coalition may be contingent on a Scottish independence referendum which I don't know that Starmer would go for.

I agree that with brexit going wrong, covid vaccination programme nearing conclusion, boosters not withstanding and the recent hike in NI I just cannot see where the tory get their next bounce.
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Suppose any Labour/SNP coalition would depend on what happens in the next couple of years and the numbers required to form a majority.

If everything goes t*ts up then Scottish independence would gain enough momentum for the SNP to push for Indyref2. If that support is not as clear then the SNP could use a coalition to push for further devolution.

Either way, hopefully any result keeps this shower of a government out!
 
Chris_Boro said:
Suppose any Labour/SNP coalition would depend on what happens in the next couple of years and the numbers required to form a majority.

If everything goes t*ts up then Scottish independence would gain enough momentum for the SNP to push for Indyref2. If that support is not as clear then the SNP could use a coalition to push for further devolution.

Either way, hopefully any result keeps this shower of a government out!
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I'll second that, seems the motion is carried.
 
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