Lefty
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That position requires a little bit of work answering questions and putting out fires, so might not be arsonist in chief Johnson's cup of tea.
He will surely aim for Graham Brady's job instead?
Zahawi sacked
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That position requires a little bit of work answering questions and putting out fires, so might not be arsonist in chief Johnson's cup of tea.
He will surely aim for Graham Brady's job instead?
Why the use of allegedly who do you think is going to sue you
Jedi, You can never be to careful with these Evangelicals, real litigious bunch apparently.
Also there are people around who claim to be direct descendants of the family. The current favourite is some aristocrat in France.
According to who you read…there were up to 20+ people executed for claiming to be the Messiah around that time. So you never know who might turn up and knock on your door.
Oh yes, May the force be with you.
Cardiffdaffs
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Fiona Bruce should not be hosting QT. Her husband is a Conservative Party donor and as a result has £3m of a government contracts. There is no way she can or indeed does behave impartially because of this. That coupled with the audience finder for the programme being an Ex UKIP member is the reason I avoid the programme.
Abel Tasman
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Caesium137
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Rishi is at North Tees hospital today I believe.
Shame about that egg shortage...........
Coincidence?
Do your own research people.
Shame about that egg shortage...........
Coincidence?
Do your own research people.
MolteniArcore
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I think she is pretty good on QT and since she has taken over I think the audiences have been pretty well selected also.
QT is what it is - it isn't everyones cup of tea and it makes everyone angry but I think it's worth of its place on TV.
ThePrisoner
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Is that so? It would explain a lot.
sherlock1969
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ForssAwakens
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Pull the other one
h_m_boro
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She's awful. Continually interrupts the guests/talks over them. As for the audience - proven there are more plants than a garden centre.
ThePrisoner
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American_Mary
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The vacuum of ability and integrity at the highest levels of government at the moment is frightening.
Zahawi should have been sacked as soon as his tax situation came to light, it beggars belief that someone with an ongoing HMRC investigation wasn't flagged as unsuitable when he was appointed to the Cabinet.
His grandfather was Governor of the Bank of Iraq, his fleeing persecution was a first class flight from Baghdad to Heathrow, months after his father had fled the country to avoid arrest, Zahawi claims his Kurdish ethnicity made him a target for burgeoning power of then Deputy President Saddam Hussein others rumour that his father was involved in syphoning funds to support Kurdish Terrorist uprisings in Turkey, his fleeing involved a first class flight from Baghdad to Heathrow and immediate enrolment into a £7k a term Private School.
Zahawi's first Political mentor was Jeffrey Archer, so his nascent political career was under the influence of a man whose expertise was the invention of stories, but forgot that in court you're meant to tell the truth and no veer off into fiction.
Cameron and co, didn't like him he was deemed untrustworthy and unscrupulous, his initial Junior minister promotion under May was one made to try and to appease her own Brexit dissenters of whom Zahawi had been identified as one to watch due to his Iraqi background being a useful narrative in the myth of Conservative inclusivity, his promotion under Johnson, a PM who was once briefly introduced to the truth but had not enjoyed the experience so went to great lengths to avoid it ever happening again, to Vaccine Minister raised his profile but many who worked with him suggested that Kate Bingham was the driver of the rollout and Zahawi a passenger who merely enjoyed the ride.
Zahawi should have been sacked as soon as his tax situation came to light, it beggars belief that someone with an ongoing HMRC investigation wasn't flagged as unsuitable when he was appointed to the Cabinet.
His grandfather was Governor of the Bank of Iraq, his fleeing persecution was a first class flight from Baghdad to Heathrow, months after his father had fled the country to avoid arrest, Zahawi claims his Kurdish ethnicity made him a target for burgeoning power of then Deputy President Saddam Hussein others rumour that his father was involved in syphoning funds to support Kurdish Terrorist uprisings in Turkey, his fleeing involved a first class flight from Baghdad to Heathrow and immediate enrolment into a £7k a term Private School.
Zahawi's first Political mentor was Jeffrey Archer, so his nascent political career was under the influence of a man whose expertise was the invention of stories, but forgot that in court you're meant to tell the truth and no veer off into fiction.
Cameron and co, didn't like him he was deemed untrustworthy and unscrupulous, his initial Junior minister promotion under May was one made to try and to appease her own Brexit dissenters of whom Zahawi had been identified as one to watch due to his Iraqi background being a useful narrative in the myth of Conservative inclusivity, his promotion under Johnson, a PM who was once briefly introduced to the truth but had not enjoyed the experience so went to great lengths to avoid it ever happening again, to Vaccine Minister raised his profile but many who worked with him suggested that Kate Bingham was the driver of the rollout and Zahawi a passenger who merely enjoyed the ride.
Andy_W
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Seems like tax dodging (tax fraud) on £27m should be a crime, if not, what is? Doesn't set a good example does it?
Looks like he's paid the tax (around 3.7m) plus a 30% penalty, plus interest, taking it to about £5m apparently.
The problem I've got is, he's basically paid himself away from a conviction, by paying that 30% (getting caught levy). If anyone skint, did a cash job and didn't declare the tax they wouldn't even get a choice for the penalty, it wouldn't be a negotiation, it would be pay the tax and interest, and we're going to throw the book at you. Is he getting any sort of criminal caution or nothing at all?
Effectively, they're advertising this as, "yeah dodge the tax, you'll get away with it more often than not, and if you don't get away with it you'll only have to pay 30% more, and no risk of prosecution. If someone did this three times, and only got caught once, they would be up by (2 x 3.7m free)-1.3m fine, which is 6.1m.
How the hell he still has a job, any job, is beyond me, let alone one in public office.
ThePrisoner
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The system is working as intended. Same as water companies getting fined for dumping **** into rivers and the sea. Much more cost effective to dump and pay the fines rather than invest in infrastructure.
Bonus! Dumping **** now completely legal for another 15 years.
Andy_W
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He hammered her there
I don't agree with what he says all the time, but he's bang on here, and is very good at getting his point across.
Andy_W
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Yeah, exactly.
They 100% want it this way, as it's often the more well-off (like Tory donors, or Tories in control of HMRC) who are committing tax fraud, who won't be investigated, never mind actually charged or prosecuted.
They're taking money away from public services which they don't even need or use, so they're not bothered, as they can buy alternatives or cover costs of problems. Mr Rich doesn't care about the NHS being screwed, he has private healthcare and could easily travel to the EU or USA to get whatever he wanted. He doesn't care about public transport, as he never uses it. Doesn't care about a pothole wrecking his wheel, as he won't even notice the £300 replacement, which would probably end up on expenses anyway. Doesn't care about the schools we all go to, his kids go to the private one, and the quality of education gets wider, so his kids have an even better chance v the rest.
Also, only the more well-off can afford the schemes which are legal, but avoid tax by diverting it abroad via a shell company in the caymans or whatever, no common man on the street can afford to do that. Someone who has £10m spare could do it though, and well worth it to save £50m in tax. See it all the time in massive companies, paying next to zero corporation tax, yet their owner has a yacht and 10 houses
Like you say about the dumping, the fines are tiny compared to what they're turning over and making in profit. If I contaminated a river with a digger bucket full of mud I'd probably get a 10k fine, which wipes out any profit for that month.
Fines and charges need to be proportional to earnings/ turnover, and an actual deterrent. If the minimum fine for tax evasion was double the tax dodged, it might help.
Interesting that loads of the richer Tories wanted out of the EU, which was bringing in stricter tax laws, specifically aimed at tax evasion. They never used this as one of their positives mind, as it's not good for 99% of people.
Laughing
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You have to pass a threshold for criminal proceedings to start. HMRC have said that threshold wasn't passed.
It's not true to suggest anyone else would be prosecuted. They usually are not. You really have to willfully try to hide money from HMRC. He didn't hide it, it was all in his groups accounting. It was actually reported on prior to HMRC getting involved as it was public.
That's essentially why he isn't being prosecuted. Not defending zahawi, but HMRC. Now there's a sentence I never thought I would say.
ThePrisoner
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I sort of get the feeling that Zahawi passed some threshold that meant he was immune from prosecution. Not small enough.