ForssAwakens
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I don’t have anything to say about anything heavyweight, fury includedDo you have anything positive to say about any heavyweight boxer other than Fury?
I don’t have anything to say about anything heavyweight, fury includedDo you have anything positive to say about any heavyweight boxer other than Fury?
Ah well, at least you've finally come round to Fury being a waster and stopped defending him.I don’t have anything to say about anything heavyweight, fury included
I wouldn’t say I’ve been over zealous in defending fury in the past, just that others aren’t consistent in applying the standards the do to fury as they do to othersAh well, at least you've finally come round to Fury being a waster and stopped defending him.
There's plenty of talent in the HW division, it's a very different sport to what it was 30 years ago. People just need to understand the days of 15 and 16 stone explosive heavyweights are gone. It's slower now but these guys are much bigger than they used to be. If you don't enjoy, then don't watch it, but just calling out every fight as a bore fight is just childish.
Usyk is far more talented. The only question for me is whether he can deal with Fury's size. Unfortunately we haven't been able to see that fight due to Fury.I wouldn’t say I’ve been over zealous in defending fury in the past, just that others aren’t consistent in applying the standards the do to fury as they do to others
Fury comes across as a fun guy, but underneath that he’s hold traditional gypsy values which hold no place in a modern society.
Most talented boxer of a generation mind. No one comes close in the current division
I’d love to agree with that claim, but without the evidence of him fighting any of the other top guys then, I can’t accept that’s any more than a hypothesisMost talented boxer of a generation mind. No one comes close in the current division
Most people who commentate and are involved in boxing for a living who are not particularly invested in a particular camp tend to agree with my ‘hypothesis’I’d love to agree with that claim, but without the evidence of him fighting any of the other top guys then, I can’t accept that’s any more than a hypothesis
Plenty say Usyk is way better, but I’m not really into populism either wayMost people who commentate and are involved in boxing for a living who are not particularly invested in a particular camp tend to agree with my ‘hypothesis’
I would disagree with this. Usyk is higher on most "experts" p4p list. That doesnt necessarily mean they think Usyk would beat Fury but it does mean they think he's more talented.Most people who commentate and are involved in boxing for a living who are not particularly invested in a particular camp tend to agree with my ‘hypothesis’
We’re talking about the heavyweight division not p4p. You just conflating the argument to suit your own agendaI would disagree with this. Usyk is higher on most "experts" p4p list. That doesnt necessarily mean they think Usyk would beat Fury but it does mean they think he's more talented.
But like BoroMart, I can make my own opinion, and from what I have seen of both fighters, I rate Usyk higher in skillset, persona and career achievement.
Wow that is a bold prediction.I think Usyk will be beaten by Dubois.
I know but I feel he will do what AJ didn’t and impose his size on him.Wow that is a bold prediction.
Can’t see it myself but you never know.I know but I feel he will do what AJ didn’t and impose his size on him.
Its not what you said. You said the most talented boxer of the generation.We’re talking about the heavyweight division not p4p. You just conflating the argument to suit your own agenda
I really can't see how Dubois wins this fight. Usyk will literally run rings round him and pick his shots at ease.Nobody In the heavyweight division beats fury, he’s a generational talent.
I think Usyk will be beaten by Dubois.
Yes, agreed. He could get schooled.Dubois has been rushed right through his career. He fought Joyce too quickly. I don't think he's recovered physically or mentally from that defeat.
He hasn't looked good since. He's a sitting duck. I fancy Usyk to get a late stoppage.
Had the same thoughts. What is he filling his time with, so much inactivity, petty nonsense online. He needs big fights to keep him focussing and mentally strong. When he doesn’t have that, you worry for himI do wonder whether Fury is playing up again with his private life