Diego
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They are unfortunatelyUnfortunately football crowds are wick with them.
They are unfortunatelyUnfortunately football crowds are wick with them.
Despite the fact I said he did nothing?Ridiculous example of victim blaming above.
Those women on nights out shouldn’t wear skirts that are too short either.What happened to Sharp was absolutely unforgivable obviously. Slightly different take on it though…
Players and managers need to have a look at themselves as well. Their actions are often way over the top and wind up fans (who are already passionate and drunk).
Players need to stop running into the crowd when they score to celebrate with them. How do they think this is ok but then they complain when fans run on the pitch towards them? Also the winding up of fans with goal celebrations. The fingers to the lips? Shouldn’t lead to fans charging the pitch but can’t help.
(Not suggesting for a minute Sharp did anything last night btw).
And Paul Heckingbottom? Condemning the violence after his actions with Djed unnecessarily wound up the whole crowd and led to a tense atmosphere?
Football is a big part of most supporters lives, and winning/losing a big game is emotional. Fans shouldn’t lose control, but players and managers need to understand how not to encourage these scenes.
I didnt realise that DiegoSharp used to play for Forest aswell. Sick attack
Yeah was decent enough for them tooI didnt realise that Diego
I have a 17 year old daughter. When she goes out she wears what she wants.Those women on nights out shouldn’t wear skirts that are too short either.
I have a 17 year old daughter. When she goes out she wears what she wants.
However am I wrong to tell her to make sure she stays in a group? Not to walk alone at night down a dark alley? What kind of parent would I be if I didn’t have that conversation with her? It’s sad but that’s reality.
I get the point you are making. I’m not blaming victims here, honestly, just looking at provocations even if they make no sense to most of us.
With the Billy Sharp situation, he did nothing wrong. Period. But these atmospheres get tense when crowds get wound up, rightly or wrongly.
Agree completely.I get what you're saying but I think the bottom line has to be fans just aren't allowed on the pitch. It's unfair to expect players to take dogs abuse but not give a bit back if they score etc. It's what makes the game exciting, I wouldn't want players to be like robots.
Just to be absolutely clear, I wasn’t justifying it.There is nothing that players/managers can legally do during a game of football that can justify what this idiot has done.
If you can't take being part of a 30,000 crowd of people who are being wound up by a footballer without resorting to violence then perhaps you shouldn't be going to games.
To be fair disorder at football matches isn't anything new, in fact it's just a case of rising again after the peak in the 70's.I would rather football stadiums were half full of "old school" supporters as opposed to stadiums filled with drunken, coked up pr1cks like this.
Yes but it's not an excuse. The same people would also get wound up in the pub or if someone looks at them in the wrong way. Getting tense, no matter what the provocation, is no excuse for violence. To lay part of the blame on Heckingbottom is wrong.I have a 17 year old daughter. When she goes out she wears what she wants.
However am I wrong to tell her to make sure she stays in a group? Not to walk alone at night down a dark alley? What kind of parent would I be if I didn’t have that conversation with her? It’s sad but that’s reality.
I get the point you are making. I’m not blaming victims here, honestly, just looking at provocations even if they make no sense to most of us.
With the Billy Sharp situation, he did nothing wrong. Period. But these atmospheres get tense when crowds get wound up, rightly or wrongly.