Most Important Bands of AT

Depeche Mode fantastic amongst a host of British Electro pop bands at that time, there was quite a few late 60s and early 70s that made electronic music sound in progressive rock popular.

My mate was a big buyer of all things progressive rock churned out and very partial to Kraftwerk,Tangerine, Dream Klaus, Shulze. Then there was Jean Michel Jarre, who for some reason he didnt really like.

On the side away from my deep and meaningful listening I was always a big fan of 50s to 80s instrumental music, including film scores and TV themes.

I think its brilliant now that you can go for a walk and listen to just about anything recommended or stuff i was to laddish or snobbish to give a go.
How stupid I was.

Have we lost a lot of the range of musical genres that sometimes sprung from nowhere to get airplay and record sales ?
 
I'm largely interested in rock and derivations of it you can generally draw a line from the origins such as: Fats Domino, Big Mama Thornton, Bill Haley & The Comets, Chuck Berry & Bo Diddley. This influenced people like Elvis, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, these influenced The Beach Boys, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, then you had the start of sub-genres with Marvin Guy, Bill Withers, The Kinks, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, then on to Fleetwood Mac and Queen. Music starts to really fragment at this point into sub genres and you can draw a line from Stooges>Ramones>Sex Pistols>Libertines as an example.

80s biggest influential bands and artists: Guns N Roses (influenced by British rock like Queen and Led Zep), The Smiths & The Cure & REM and Pixies are often name checked by artists from 90s-now.
90s : Nirvana (heavily influenced by Pixies and negatively influenced by GNR), Foo Fighters (influenced by the punk scene, but also the melodies of the beatles, Fleetwood Mac etc), Radiohead (influenced by Talking Heads and the art rock scene), Oasis (influenced by the Beatles, The Smiths and early contemporaries like Stone Roses)
00s: Arctic Monkeys(influenced by Punk like The Clash, but also 50s americana and art rock), Arcade Fire (influenced by Bowies art rock scene),

but all the above were influential in their music sub-genres.

I've steared away from the fashion influence, because I'm sat at home in my jog pants so can't comment.
 
Scrug said:
The Strokes had a big impact when they first arrived on the scene.
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The first lyrics of Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino album are "I just wanted to be one of The Strokes". Yes they definitely influenced.

JackG said:
Joy Division/New Order
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I'm gonna take the opportunity to once gain show of my bass I bought off Hooky :cool:

Fabiopaim said:
Oasis. Dragged everything away from boy bands back to guitar indie music.
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Despite their failing as a band and as people, this is 100% correct, I just wish they stopped after 2 perfect-ish albums.

Flood said:
The Cure - influenced loads of Alternative bands since the 80's, biggest band in the whole Goth movement, loads of top tunes, singer is instantly recognisable/iconic
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100% the septics love them even more than we do. the youth of today love them more than my generation did too, I mean anyone in Norton in the 80s openly admitting to liking The Cure got their arsh handed to them. None of that today, my daughters and many of her friends are massive fans of The Cure.

Ratedr69 said:
Blur did that first tbh
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there was a lot of synth driven stuff on their earliest work, I wouldn't say Coxon was really leading the sound, certainly not the recorded sound anyway. If you compare Definitely Maybe and Leisure, the blur album is more subtle, lead guitar fills, DM is a 30 foot, barbed-wire topped wall of guitars.....without a good stereo I find it almost unlistenable now, it's recorded as an audible assault of guitars, drums and bass at max volume. If you try and listen on a laptop the guitar melodies are barely audible over the driving rhythm
 

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Ratedr69 said:
Blur did that first tbh
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Not really, Modern Life is Rubbish was hardly a game changer, it was only once they released Parklife and the subsequent media "battle" started to play out that they both gained popularity alongside their "rivals" and can really started to appeal to people beyond those indie fans who'd been listening to them alongside Strangelove, MBV, Cornershop, Swervedriver, Cud, The Wonderstuff, Neds etc in the early 90's.

Blur pre Parklife were as relevant as other bands of the time like Pulp, Denim, Suede, Saint Etienne and The Auteurs who all featured in the "Yanks go home" Select magazine cover that many see as the start of Britpop.
 
BoroMart said:
The first lyrics of Arctic Monkeys - Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino album are "I just wanted to be one of The Strokes". Yes they definitely influenced.


I'm gonna take the opportunity to once gain show of my bass I bought off Hooky :cool:


Despite their failing as a band and as people, this is 100% correct, I just wish they stopped after 2 perfect-ish albums.


100% the septics love them even more than we do. the youth of today love them more than my generation did too, I mean anyone in Norton in the 80s openly admitting to liking The Cure got their arsh handed to them. None of that today, my daughters and many of her friends are massive fans of The Cure.


there was a lot of synth driven stuff on their earliest work, I wouldn't say Coxon was really leading the sound, certainly not the recorded sound anyway. If you compare Definitely Maybe and Leisure, the blur album is more subtle, lead guitar fills, DM is a 30 foot, barbed-wire topped wall of guitars.....without a good stereo I find it almost unlistenable now, it's recorded as an audible assault of guitars, drums and bass at max volume. If you try and listen on a laptop the guitar melodies are barely audible over the driving rhythm
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Fair comment on blur, leisure was forced by the record company ( there’s no other way is a classic still )

but listen to modern life is rubbish from 1993, before def maybe. Coxons work on that is legendary, more intresting guitar sounds on that album then all the oasis ones combined tbh.

MLIR was the first britpop rock/indie album. And then even parklife was released before DM I think
 
Ratedr69 said:
Fair comment on blur, leisure was forced by the record company ( there’s no other way is a classic still )

but listen to modern life is rubbish from 1993, before def maybe. Coxons work on that is legendary, more intresting guitar sounds on that album then all the oasis ones combined tbh.

MLIR was the first britpop rock/indie album. And then even parklife was released before DM I think
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But you're looking at it from a musos perspective - that's not what you said, you claimed Blur were instrumental in getting people to move away from dance music / boys bands as they'd impacted on popular culture before Oasis.

I can guarantee that I was one of probably 3 people in the 5th year of Acklam Grange who'd heard Modern Life is Rubbish when it was released, everyone else was still listening to SL2, UB40 and Apache Indian, and didn't start to listen to guitar bands until mid-late 1994 and into 1995 when both Oasis and Blur gained momentum and widespread recognition.

They were still playing the Old Trout in Windsor and Aylesbury Civic Centre in 1994, or headlining the tent at T in the Park such was their level of influence beyond indie kids.
 
Ratedr69 said:
MLIR was the first britpop rock/indie album. And then even parklife was released before DM I think
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Nah, Suede's debut album was released in March 1993 and could probably lay claim to that. I'd also ague that until Parklife Suede would have been far more recognisable than Blur, especially given the MM cover that proclaimed them "The best new band in Britain".
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Not really, Modern Life is Rubbish was hardly a game changer, it was only once they released Parklife and the subsequent media "battle" started to play out that they both gained popularity alongside their "rivals" and can really started to appeal to people beyond those indie fans who'd been listening to them alongside Strangelove, MBV, Cornershop, Swervedriver, Cud, The Wonderstuff, Neds etc in the early 90's.

Blur pre Parklife were as relevant as other bands of the time like Pulp, Denim, Suede, Saint Etienne and The Auteurs who all featured in the "Yanks go home" Select magazine cover that many see as the start of Britpop.
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Well with the thread title being most important. Parklife being number 1 made guitar indie bands become more acceptable and In the mainstream .

Fair comment on the 2nd part, modern life may not have got the sales at the time but don’t knock the impact that album had. Britpop probably originated with blur due to a failed American tour in 91/92.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
But you're looking at it from a musos perspective - that's not what you said, you claimed Blur were instrumental in getting people to move away from dance music / boys bands as they'd impacted on popular culture before Oasis.

I can guarantee that I was one of probably 3 people in the 5th year of Acklam Grange who'd heard Modern Life is Rubbish when it was released, everyone else was still listening to SL2, UB40 and Apache Indian, and didn't start to listen to guitar bands until mid-late 1994 and into 1995 when both Oasis and Blur gained momentum and widespread recognition.

They were still playing the Old Trout in Windsor and Aylesbury Civic Centre in 1994, or headlining the tent at T in the Park such was their level of influence beyond indie kids.
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Ok, So Parklife did that then in 94 ?
 
Ratedr69 said:
Well with the thread title being most important. Parklife being number 1 made guitar indie bands become more acceptable and In the mainstream .
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But you claimed that Blur did it before Oasis, my point (and I much prefer Blur to Oasis BTW) is that they both followed a parallel track, and it was only the media battle that really amplified them both and really made them really appeal to "the mainstream".

Both bands in much of 1994 were still mainly appealing to the traditional rock and indie kids and hadn't had the wider spread influence they would later. Girls and Boys and Parklife were the two "standout" singles on Parklife, which were hardly guitar based at that point - they gained popularity (and I appreciate the album got to number 1) because they were shouty singalong songs that Darren and Sharon could belt along to, it took them a while to truly embrace guitar bands (when they probably went too far the otherway, hence the success of bands like KulaShaker and Sleeper).
 
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Whoever thought of having a verse, then a chorus then another verse and chorus then a guitar solo then a quiet bit then another chorus was very influential.
BTW KULA SHAKER WERE F***ing BRILLIANT
 
Ratedr69 said:
Fair comment on blur, leisure was forced by the record company ( there’s no other way is a classic still )

but listen to modern life is rubbish from 1993, before def maybe. Coxons work on that is legendary, more intresting guitar sounds on that album then all the oasis ones combined tbh.

MLIR was the first britpop rock/indie album. And then even parklife was released before DM I think
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Oh coxon is certainly a better guitarist by miles but I’d still class his work as more subtle and clever than influential. DM was utterly visceral in your face guitars
 
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