Forget about Hackney, RVB, McGree

TeaCider said:
If we try to sell him in the summer, we may as well pack in.

A model doesn't work if you sell any players that perform well for you as soon as you can, we're just left with the duds and scrambling to find replacements for the players who were actually performing well for us, on top of the strengthening we already need.

Injuries have played a huge part, but this could still end up being the 2nd lowest points tally we've had in the last 10 seasons in the Championship.
Even if we win both of our remaining games, it's the 4th lowest.
We need to improve on our weaknesses, not sell our strengths.
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Exactly. We must keep high calibre players until a rediculous offer comes in or in last year of contract. Lath has really had a two month hot streak, I doubt anyone will offer 20m+ that would constitute a rediculous offer. So we keep and build around him. His value will grow if he gets up amongst the top scorers in the champo by Christmas next year
 
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BoroMart said:
Exactly. We must keep high calibre players until a rediculous offer comes in or in last year of contract. Path has really had a two month hot streak, I doubt anyone will offer 20m+ that would constitute a rediculous offer. So we keep and build around him. His value will grow if he gets up amongst the top scorers in the champo by Christmas next year
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I don't think we "try" to sell players anyway unless they're in the last year of their contract but if clubs come in with crazy offers then we consider them. Like you I don't think anyone would pay what we would need to let go of him this summer. He's still got 3 years left on his deal plus we have the option of an extra year I think, no chance he leaves this summer without a £20m+ offer and no one is paying that yet.
 
It's the nature of the game, the players and this division really. You don't exactly have to start from square one every summer but it might as well be. The days of 10 year careers at the same club are long gone. The players don't help either, I mean we could all have probably guessed that Chuba going to Ajax was not going to work, but it's backfired badly for the bloke, but no, that's where he wanted to go and they gave us what we thought was a fair deal. We had their eyes out really. It's a short career, but the short term mentality of some players is ridiculous - they can't see the proper path for themselves.

So I guess we have a value of Latte Lath. And I guess if a West Ham or an Anderlecht or whoever came in for him, and gave him more money he'd go. It wouldn't be great for us, and I suspect not for him either, but that's the game we're in.
 
Reminds me of a young Ian Wright - seems to be everywhere.

If someone asks the price is £30m - he's on a long contract, with 7 or 8 good years ahead of him.

Build a team around him next season please.
 
breakthewallsdown said:
I don’t think he’s a better striker than Archer was for us last year but he’s bloody great to watch isn’t he? His work rate is unbelievable and the amount of tackles he makes around our box is unreal
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I dunno to be honest, he's scoring at a better rate than Archer, in a worse team, and he seems more "complete", as far as his all round game goes. Archer probably was a better finisher on his strong side though. Would be more than happy with either of them to be honest.
 
We're not going to get any bids more than 15m for him, so we won't be selling unfortunately.

Have to remember that Gyokeres only went for around £17m, and he was incredible.

We're in the driving seat with Latte Lathe though, we've got another 3 years on his contract plus another year option, so realistically we wouldn't have to sell for at least 3 years, unless we needed the cash. No point selling though, unless you already have better, as finding better would be extremely tough.

Solves a headache if we don't need to go and find a no1 striker though, maybe one of the others can develop alongside/ behind him in the pecking order, but I would feel more comfortable if we had someone more "set in stone" for that role.

For next year we need a ball winning centre mid and a long term right back, those now look like the priorities for me. We also need to get better at injury prevention, as we've been horrendous this year for injuries.
 
The thing with Latte Lath is I don't think even he knows what he is going to do, so I'm not sure how defenders can work him out.
 
TeaCider said:
Surely that's fortunately.
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I mean unfortunately for 30m, but yes, fortunately for anything <20m, and would only take £20m up front, no addons bull****.

Proviso being that if we did take £20m, that it actually goes on players, which are sort of proven in similar leagues or above, or positions we need.
 
If the club new policy is to find players and hopefully find a gem then sell we should be explaining this to all new players coming to us. Give us two seasons if you have performed then clubs will come knocking if you have struggled we will keep faith and hopefully make you a better player.
 
Chappy112 said:
It was only a month ago people were saying we could probably fetch our £4m back for him.

I've said for ages that a striker who consistently gets into goal scoring positions is so important even if they miss a few as he was early on in the season. The chances will keep coming and we would find out if he could eventually settle down and not do everything at 100mph. He seems to have unlocked that now a bit like Akpom did last season.

It's also no coincidence that under Carrick we've had players scoring goals for fun with Akpom, Archer and now Latte Lath, we create so many chances that they know another one will come and that takes all the pressure off. As much as I thought Assombalonga was crap, he'd get one chance per game under Pulis and Warnock, it's no surprise that he fluffed them a lot of the time when he probably knows that's the only one he's gonna get.

Balogun, Sporar, Braithwaite etc would have scored for fun under Carrick as well.
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Nobody wanted to cash in on ELL for 4m at any poinr, you made that up.
 
Can't really see a Premier League team coming in for a striker who's had a good few months in the Championship (as much as I rate him).

It's not the same as Rogers, who fits the English criteria that PL squads need.

Players like Gyokeres got ignored for two seasons until he signed for Lisbon and now he's being quoted as a £80m+ player.
 
It's another feather in the cap of the recruitment team too.

Lath signed for 4m and could realistically attract 15m bids
Rogers 1.5m sold for up to 16m after just 6 months
Rav signed for 200k could realistically attract bids of 12m this summer
Dieng 2m could attract 5m bids
Glover free, rumours of 1.5m bid from celtic

even if Engel, Gilbert, Silvera, and Bangura have dropped a couple of mil in value; weve still turned 13m investment into ~52m in assets. That's a fantastic return. Same again this summer and we should have one of the best squads in the champo
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Can't really see a Premier League team coming in for a striker who's had a good few months in the Championship (as much as I rate him).
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agreed, possible that Leeds could put an offer in if they go up, or one of the relegated teams might. But an established prem team with oodles of cash is unlikely. If he top scores the champo next season, then yes, a prem team might come knocking.
 
BoroMart said:
It's another feather in the cap of the recruitment team too.

Lath signed for 4m and could realistically attract 15m bids
Rogers 1.5m sold for up to 16m after just 6 months
Rav signed for 200k could realistically attract bids of 12m this summer
Dieng 2m could attract 5m bids
Glover free, rumours of 1.5m bid from celtic

even if Engel, Gilbert, Silvera, and Bangura have dropped a couple of mil in value; weve still turned 13m investment into ~52m in assets. That's a fantastic return. Same again this summer and we should have one of the best squads in the champo
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Came on here to ask for those very numbers!

This is definitely the plan going forward, if we can increase the value of assets overall then everyone is happy (as by default it means players are performing on the pitch).

There may be some whose value stalls, or even decreases, but if the overall valuation is up, it's a very sustainable model. Over time, as our recruitment approach improves we should see fewer in the "stalls/declines" category and more in the "increases" one.

We/I've been crying out for this years - it's what almost every modern, successful club does and it's great that we're finally following suit.
 
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