ThePrisoner
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Schrodinger's tory.
Anyone think houchen will get back in?
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sherlock
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LessoftheLip
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Redlips
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how on earth can you go to a polling station, vote for a Labour in one election and the one that really, really matters vote Tory???
Baffling.
You know what we have some thick as mince people.
Dreadful campaign labour. You have let me down and somebody needs to be accountable.
Matt Storey (Lab) 65,418 (52.59%)
Steve Turner (C) 58,977 (47.41%)
Lab maj 6,441 (5.18%)
Electorate 418,448; Turnout 124,395 (29.73%)
Baffling.
You know what we have some thick as mince people.
Dreadful campaign labour. You have let me down and somebody needs to be accountable.
Matt Storey (Lab) 65,418 (52.59%)
Steve Turner (C) 58,977 (47.41%)
Lab maj 6,441 (5.18%)
Electorate 418,448; Turnout 124,395 (29.73%)
Cardiffdaffs
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The circumstances surrounding that mayor vote make it unique. Poor Labour candidate, Houchen avoiding being a Tory throughout the campaign until after he had won, the lack of political discourse amongst huge apathetic sway of the electorate on Teesside.
ThePrisoner
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Never had Teesside down as the tory's last stand. Can someone please make a Downfall video?
dooderooni
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I've just seen the BBC coverage from Norton and the number of people saying that Houchen has done wonders for the area with the airport and the freeport just goes to show how little people engage with politics. I'm certain that most have no idea about the reality of the vaporware jobs or the alleged corruption.
That's pretty insulting to the people of Teesside. I understand you didn't end up with the mayor you wanted but resorting to insults is not very edifying. I wouldn't seek a career in politics if I was you.
sherlock
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You’re joking, right?
There’s nobody more insulting to others than the current Tory party.
Redlips
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Why? The Tees Valley is a laughing stock.
We are going to have a massive Labour majority at Westminster in months, Labour PCC, Labour controlled Councils all over the region and we vote in a nugget that asset stripped the town.
Don't think it's insulting to state demonstrable facts. The majority of Teesside that chose to turn up chose a demonstrably incompetent or corrupt individual to stand again. They looked and said yup, that's my kind of guy. That leads to some quite understandable and reasonable questions about their drivers and motivations.
grumpyoldgit
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I'm so embarrassed at the low turnout. It's as if we don't care.
This is the incompetence running the country,
A major?
What a fool that makes him look.
Clearly a majority of those who voted did not follow the entirely one-sided campaigning endlessly promoted on here. Perhaps if they did read the threads and voted for Houchen anyway they didn't consider that Tees Valley would be a laughing stock (can anyone hear that laughing?) or that they would be 'as thick as mince' or indeed any of the oft repeated insults. Maybe they would have voted Labour and avoided being laid open to the 'shame' and ridicule by the great and the good. Instead it seems they just used their democratic privelige and ignored the keyboard warriors. When the massive Labour majority comes some people are going to have a lot more spare time on their hands.
People vote for the candidate they want to vote for. If Labour take the win for granted and don't bother, then perhaps it's not surprising they didn't win.
Demonstrable facts, your opinions, public perceptions, or anything else don't really matter.
Just find a voter and sell him something. Labour didn't bother and there'll probably be a Labour government clashing with a Tory who doesn't want to be Tory mayor.
But blaming the electorate is pathetic.
They were demonstrably either
Uninformed or
Blinded by tribalism
... Or they actually knew all about everything that's happened and are somehow okay with it / or ( a minority) would benefit from it personally
Being uninformed is nobody's fault. I don't think it's a stretch to say the average Teessider does not read private eye.
There's a lot of reasons for that, including poor campaigning by the opposition or a weak media that has done a poor job of reporting it, especially locally.
This, or at least my, argument is not about ideology, that's a different argument and everyone is entitled to their views. This is about placing a cross against the name of a man that, with mountains of evidence is either completely incompetent or completely corrupt. That's not opinion, that's simply fact.
Uninformed or
Blinded by tribalism
... Or they actually knew all about everything that's happened and are somehow okay with it / or ( a minority) would benefit from it personally
Being uninformed is nobody's fault. I don't think it's a stretch to say the average Teessider does not read private eye.
There's a lot of reasons for that, including poor campaigning by the opposition or a weak media that has done a poor job of reporting it, especially locally.
This, or at least my, argument is not about ideology, that's a different argument and everyone is entitled to their views. This is about placing a cross against the name of a man that, with mountains of evidence is either completely incompetent or completely corrupt. That's not opinion, that's simply fact.
Sorry to hear you have been a laughing stock with your London pals,We genuinely have been a bit of a laughing stock today with some of my London pals. Anyway they might be about to vote in Susan Hall
Please, someone make it make sense!
It’s quite possible the people that could be bothered to get out and vote don’t have “London pals” and evidently don’t give a Phuck about your “London Pals”
Sorry for your loss in this sad time.